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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #195 on: November 21, 2015, 08:51:48 pm »
I mostly just play by myself
Oh, might I ask why? Nothing against it, to each their own, but I always figured KF was better when played with strangers. As a side note though, you must be pretty good. I always believed KF was much harder when played alone.
Most of the reason is that I've run into enough ass holes in co op games who will complain when I'm not doing the specific thing they want me to do. I've played a small bit in multiplayer in random servers and the majority of people I ran into were okay, others made me want to headbut a wall because 'why didn't you fucking do X? You made us fail!' or 'Dude why didn't you pick up my fucking equipment?! fuck you!' or other crap. I'm sorry my gear weighs a metric fuck ton and I'm the fucking medic carrying a medigun and a bloody shotgun because nobody protects the fucking medic.
Also, as far as being good, I'm probably terrible at the game, rarely play solo outside of beginner difficulty, occasionally on normal. Beginner makes everything easy as shit but I get to use the cool expensive guns I can't get when I play on normal because I evidently suck. Also, can confirm the game is harder solo on any difficulty except beginner.
EDIT because and I accidently wrote ways instead of weighs...
Also another reason I haven't played a lot of multiplayer is because I'd like to at least get a couple of levels in the perks I prefer before really hopping into a lot of multiplayer, though with the crap way you level perks in the game I'll probably abandon that goal.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #196 on: November 22, 2015, 08:59:03 pm »
getting the first/second level in KF is pretty easy. mostly making headshots with certain weapons.
You got unlucky with a couple of those attempts at multiplayer, for the most part the KF community are pretty friendly. Your class doesn't count for much, just gives bonuses to certain weapons/skill. example, I play sniper class but rarely take rifles. I mostly use all the pistols. I can empty those fuckers faster than anybody can empty an assault rifle, and point blank against one of the bigger bastards means a ton of DPS more. Near the end of rounds though, ive usually got the crossbow and only one pistol set.
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I said "better DPS" I meant "comparable." most of the pistols have a long reload time. also, the guys that say "why didnt you pick up my equipment," if im picking up their equipment, they aren't getting it back because I dont know how to drop it. they should be more worried that I did pick it up. they can pick it up themselves anyway at the start of the next round.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2015, 09:08:35 pm by saltmummy626 »
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #197 on: November 22, 2015, 10:50:08 pm »
Yeah, first couple of levels for most perks is pretty easy to earn, already rank 3 as the medic. As far as multiplayer, I've played a bit more and the game is definitely better in multiplayer then solo, and I've realized I've gotten to the point of not giving a fuck about what they say, or occasionally being sarcastic(can legitimately thank hours spent in TF2 hearing 'that guys a hacker' from five year olds for the sarcasm when dealing with assholes.) Definitely going to start playing more multiplayer when I have the time.
And as far as weapons I end up carrying two med guns and usually another weapon if I can carry it, but other then that I prefer the explosive class myself.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #198 on: November 23, 2015, 07:57:42 am »
They aren't getting it back because I don't know how to drop it. they should be more worried that I did pick it up. they can pick it up themselves anyway at the start of the next round.
The drop button is defaulted to \ IIRC

Anyways, about Killing Floor, I find it very fun. Getting close to getting support to level 3 (yay shotguns) and unlocked the ZED gun which is a pretty neat gun although kinda useless and hard to aim.
I got so close to beating KF on normal on a long round solo. The damn patriarch got me, he is a total pain in the ass solo, at least with multiplayer he splits his focus and spreads his attacks a tad more evenly among the squad.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #199 on: November 23, 2015, 09:46:50 pm »
I like in KF, how you can unlock a bunch of the skins by getting achievements in lieu of buying them.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #200 on: November 26, 2015, 10:30:26 pm »
Okay flashback to February of this year when I bought Doorkickers, I watched the Bunnyhop review of it and went, "Yeah that looks pretty awesome, and I could do with a tactical action game." So I played it a bit, and got frustrated because I got stuck on a hostage mission taking place in a furniture store. My guys would constantly die, and my grand plan never fully covered the building. You wanna know why?

Because I thought you could only get 3 stars if your plan you make at the start is the successful one, no adapting mid-mission, no changing positions, you have to stick with that one plan. I tried to make some levels but got mad and quit when I learned that you need Photoshop to do anything major with it (gimp didn't work or do what I wanted it too).

I gave up on the game and never looked back, fuck I didn't even bother researching how to play Doorkickers more because I was too busy failing school at the time.


Anyway I looked up some 3 Star gameplay footage after buying Doorkickers again for my phone when I realized... you could change the plan mid mission, the only reason I never got three stars is because the timer kept ticking while they were executing my "grand plan". Three stars is about speed, not making the ultimate plan... don't I feel like a dumbass. Anyway time to play Gmod TTT in celebration of Turkey Day, the release of my fucking video, and postponing another Highway update to slack off. YIPPIEE!!

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #201 on: November 27, 2015, 07:42:00 pm »
I got bulletstorm in the steam sale. I got it for my dad several years ago but never played it myself. Fun fact, because of GFWL, he has NEVER been able to play it until a few months ago. It's a cool enough game. I like the bit where you pull a guy to you, strafe around (time slows down for the guy you grabbed/kicked) him and kick him in another direction, hopefully off an edge or something. I also like how things get interesting when you encounter some slightly smarter enemies, who can evade your grabs/kicks and have to be staggered before you can do it. makes for some good quick tactical game play in a game that LOOKS like its just about the shooting.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #202 on: November 28, 2015, 10:49:16 pm »
Soooo, bit of a rant incoming but I'm both kinda mad and somewhat amused.
Okay, was having a semi intelligible discussion in Dirty Bomb, it's a free to play FPS on steam. It says it's an early access, but in my opinion I don't think it should be calling itself a beta.
Why? Core mechanics (gunplay and merc abilities) are done and work fairly well, as good as pretty much any other f2p fps. What it lacks is maps and maybe some mercs to fill niche roles.Other then that it looks to be done.
So, what they are doing( the devs) is adding in new maps and mercs, and making changes to the abilities and such of current mercs, ok. Do you know what those are? Quality of life updates as far as adjusting existing mercs and tweaking the new ones after they've been introduced and adding new maps. So, nothing game changing enough to warrant calling the game a beta really. So far as I've seen no recent updates have done MASSIVE overhauls to the game, just nice little tweaks to make it somewhat better.
Now, as someone who has a modicum of knowledge of how games are made thanks to extra credits and other factors, I think my opinion does have some knowledge behind it and should at least be considered, you know like everyone else opinion. Well apparently I don't know how games are made at all according to some arse who kept repeating that and telling me I 'should be happy to get into the beta at all'.
Seriously, the game already has micro transactions, up to $30 or so dollars I think, this is not a fucking beta anymore....
But whatever, I apparently have no knowledge about game development despite using some readily available sources of information, some of which are made by people in the industry. No knowledge whatsoever. Nope, none.
Oh wait... I do. I hate people insulting me and trying to just push my opinion to the side without presenting ANY kind of argument for their side.
think I'm done for now.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #203 on: November 29, 2015, 02:14:10 am »
I do not like how people will call a FULLY FINISHED game a beta like that. Just call it the full release and release patches and content updates like everyone did before Minecraft came along and fucked PC gaming just by existing.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #204 on: November 29, 2015, 11:16:07 am »
A lot of games use it so they can just point to the beta sign and say 'your criticism isnt valid'. But what got me about the incident that pissed me off and caused me to post that is that NO reason was given, just stating 'its in beta and you don't know how games are made so feel lucky to be in the beta'. Okay, but why is this a beta? Is it because they've just introduced this new mode that's pretty much discount counter strike? Because fully released games have introduced new game modes after being fully released.
Just, try and explain instead of being a fucking asshat.

Also I don't get how Minecraft fucked over PC gaming.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #205 on: November 29, 2015, 01:10:25 pm »
A lot of games use it so they can just point to the beta sign and say 'your criticism isnt valid'. But what got me about the incident that pissed me off and caused me to post that is that NO reason was given, just stating 'its in beta and you don't know how games are made so feel lucky to be in the beta'. Okay, but why is this a beta? Is it because they've just introduced this new mode that's pretty much discount counter strike? Because fully released games have introduced new game modes after being fully released.
Just, try and explain instead of being a fucking asshat.

Also I don't get how Minecraft fucked over PC gaming.

Minecraft didn't fuck PC gaming, it fucked how games are developed.

Before people had to push out a finished product or just give up, releasing an unfinished game was basically a death sentence, even if you were to fix or add stuff in with later patches.

So Minecraft comes along and basically says, "Screw that open or closed beta shit you normally get in for, for free. Just pay this low price and you get the full game when it's released." Problem was... it was a really good game developed by a team dedicated to what they love to do make games. So a few more games copy that same model and become successful, Valve looks at this model and goes, "THAT MEANS WE GET MORE MONEY FOR GAMES THAT AREN'T FINISHED YET! GET GABEN ON THE PHONE!"

So now you have indie devs with retardly ambitious projects about how they'll revolutionize the games industry with their hardcore survival game with huge RPG elements, and how they included a bathroom meter and how the crafting is SoOOOOOOO different from the competitor. For said Indie Dev to give up halfway through development because, "Hey I got my money, I can put it to a new project I have some new ambition to develop."

But the model can work if the devs know what they're doing, like the guys making ARK: Survival Evolved (even though I don't play ARK, nor do I own it), Rust, or hell look at games like FTL, Prison Architect, and even Minecraft.


Its just that a bunch of people that haven't developed a game before (people who normally lost their job, worked a small position in the games industry previously, or they're completely new) really don't take into account how much money will be spent, how much time will be spent, or if they'll even be able to do it.

That's why I haven't really worked on The Highway game a bunch because I'm a guy with no previous experience in: coding, programming, game design, art direction, music, etc... You think you can do something like this, until you actually try to work on it.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #206 on: November 29, 2015, 01:51:30 pm »
Not going to quote all that, but I I do agree.
With minecraft, well as long as notch was there, there seemed to be an obvious passion. I've looked into Prison architect and again, it looked like they had an obvious passion for making it the best game they could. A lot of devs seem to get to a midway point were they lose interest and wander off to another project. That's part of why I tend not to buy early access, though there are a few exceptions that I've probably made and one I will be making.
I bought mine craft because my brothers and I thought it would be fun to play together, and while I don't really play it much without them, it's solid and does what it set out to do.
Anyway, I think I'm rambling a little bit here so I'll just end this here.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #207 on: November 29, 2015, 02:16:44 pm »
I don't get why anyone can release an unfinished game and cut and run. If you are going to put time into something like a game, finish it and make it good. Otherwise its a waste of time, money, and demon magic for everyone involved.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #208 on: November 29, 2015, 04:45:16 pm »
Most Indie games these days it seems are perpetually in Beta, it's all about grabbing the attention of people who buy every new gadget that comes out as it comes out; and if it's an Alpha, EVEN BETTER!!!
What those kind of people don't understand is that unlike an iphone, an Indie game in beta isn't necessarily going to be well polished, or even playable.

They also know once the game is fully released they'll have to start taking serious responsibility, everything from fixing bugs and glitches that they don't know how or are too lazy to fix to giving refunds to players who read the fine print. 

It feels like the Indie gaming industry these days has become like the mainstream gaming industry, all about the hype and money, rather than making games that the big game makers don't or won't, and making them the way the players actually want them.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #209 on: November 30, 2015, 04:36:01 am »
"Indie Dev" is a pretty generous title for most early access developers.

An example I can think of is starforge. Anybody remember starforge? It was originally marketed as a minecraft tower defense game, and turned into a space minecraft type game. Development was going fine until they suddenly found themselves drowning in money. What did they do with that money? They burned through it before you could say "NO STARFORGE WAIT!!" They spent ALL of their budget almost instantly by hiring a bunch of professional game devs, IMMEDIATELY had to let them go along with half of their original team, and released starforge as it is now, a broken horrible mess.

and then they made reign of kings.
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