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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1695 on: January 28, 2017, 10:23:11 am »
Whenever I see the Bethesda logo in the intro to DOOM 2016, I always think "fuck you, you didn't make this shit, fuck off cunt." And now that I've played it for five hours straight instead of just a little hands on for a few minutes, my reaction to seeing their logo is even more vitriolic. Mother fuckers trying to take more than a little credit for something that's good. Id made it, Bethesda didn't. Fuck off Bethesda and learn to make better games like this more respectable company you own does. Learn to put a little fucking love and effort into what you make goddamnit. At least they aren't like the film companies, churning out a movie or two in a single franchise every year. I guess there is that.

It's fantastic. The gameplay is fast and smooth, the violence is visceral but not classlessly over the top, the environments are simple and yet interesting. Monster redesigns are a nice blend of new and old, and killing those things doesn't get old easily. The balance between gameplay and difficulty is so fine tuned that if you fail, it isn't the games fault. There's hardly any fanservice and when there is, it's small and out of the way instead of being waved in your face. It's a game that feels like it was made to be a game. It doesn't have all this stupid horse shit that most games insist on having these days. The upgrades you can get effect gameplay dramatically for the better. Overall, it's a fantastic example of what games should be. The world would be a hell of a lot more fun and less creatively bankrupt if there were more companies making games with the kind of care and attention to detail the id (not bethesda) put into DOOM 2016.

1. Video game publishing is arguably higher risk than actually creating video games (at least if you're working in a manner similar to Id and Bethesda's relationship, where Bethesda is more or less footing all the bills). Besides that, if things hadn't worked out, everyone would have blamed Bethesda. Since they did, everyone credits Id.

2. Frankly, Id got nothing done on the game until they were aquired by ZeniMax, who then forced them to work with Bethesda to get John Carmack to stop fucking talking about a game they'd barely even started, and to actually make a game. Bethesda then footed the bill for all the marketing and kept the whole development on track, as well as provided input on how to actually make it good. This is stated in tons of interviews.

Without Bethesda, you'd have no Doom 2016. You have a team of guys unable to even decide on the setting and John Carmack talking about how it's the best game ever, takes place on Earth or maybe Mars or maybe under the ocean, runs at 30 or 60 FPS during singleplayer or maybe multiplayer, and would be built using the Id Tech 5 or maybe the Crytec engine.

None of that shit was decided on for the first four years of development until Bethesda and Zeni Max made them get their asses in gear. So yeah, they are taking some of the credit, and they probably deserve it.

3. Bethesda doesn't own Id. ZeniMax owns both. There is a difference. Also a difference between Bethesda Softworks (who published this, New Vegas, and Wolfinstien to name a few good ones), and Bethesda Game Studios (who did the Elder Scrolls, Fallout 4, etc.). Since 2002, these aren't the same people even if they are part of the same parent company.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1696 on: January 28, 2017, 12:08:48 pm »
Question is, who do I blame for glorious soviet checkpoint system? :V

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1697 on: January 28, 2017, 07:30:21 pm »
Question is, who do I blame for glorious soviet checkpoint system? :V
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Id's logo still belongs before bethesdas. Maybe that's why fallout 4 was such a shambles at release, too busy helping id make a good game.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1698 on: January 29, 2017, 02:11:19 am »
I doubt it. Once again, Bethesda that makes games and Bethesda that publishes them aren't the same people or technically even the same company.

And it's very normal to put a publisher's logo first.

I get ya don't like Bethesda at all, but in this case, they haven't done anything wrong and likely helped the game succeed, if you're to believe Id's own statements anyway.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1699 on: January 29, 2017, 02:23:29 am »
Does anybody up in here have Vermintide?
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1700 on: February 05, 2017, 12:10:06 pm »
Welp, recently bothered to play World at War. Not a bit fan of the Call of Duty series other than the early games, but did like this one. And then played one of said old-school games, United Offensive, to remind myself that health regen isn't so bad after all.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1701 on: February 07, 2017, 10:08:38 pm »
So evidently the PR community hasn't found a suitable direct download link, and the only available thing is a torrent so I had to find a direct download link to the .iso file they use for an installer now. Fun.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1702 on: February 08, 2017, 12:56:20 am »
PR as in...? :V

Also, got to finally try Total Chaos, that fat-ass Doom 2 mod. FUCK the melee system in it. Just fuck it. In the ass. Also, fuck strobe lighting.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1703 on: February 08, 2017, 02:00:02 am »
PR= Project Reality, in this case the BF2 version which if you have a mic, patience, and a willingness to learn can be awesome. Or a clusterfuck. Usually awesome though

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1704 on: February 08, 2017, 11:31:24 am »
Ah right, that was what I sorta guessed, but wasn't sure.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1705 on: February 08, 2017, 08:13:32 pm »
Yep, and I will say I love playing the game for the most part, but when you get some people who don't speak at all using the built in mumble(usually because the server has a TS which is another thing I hate) it's frustrating, especially when they don't clarify why they're sitting in the base, which is usually because of some maps not spawning things like apc in until certain criteria is met.

Also: Runs at me with a knife saying he's going to knife fight me, buddies complain when I report him and he gets kicked. Which may also be because I didn't pay attention to squad names and such but still, that's a dumb thing to do.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1706 on: February 11, 2017, 11:36:24 pm »
Some derp discussion led me to look at my commit history for CDDA. Hnng.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1707 on: February 11, 2017, 11:58:10 pm »
Ever end up doing anything with that python code?

Also, anyone know of any good gameboy emulators? I hanker for pokemon and advanced wars.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1708 on: February 12, 2017, 12:20:46 am »
...have yet to get around to trying it. Too much going on lately.

Visualboy Advance works for that.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #1709 on: February 12, 2017, 12:06:00 pm »
I've tried PR and it doesn't seem like the kind of game I can enjoy on my own, but as of right now I don't have time to commit to joining a dedicated squad.
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