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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2015, 11:46:32 pm »
The real issue here is even more power being put into Valve's hands.  I can't willingly support it.  Every aspect of this system on Steam workshop simply stacks the deck even more in Valve's favor when they're already the gods of the PC gaming market. 

I'll be waiting to see what Nexus puts into place for their donation system and making liberal use of it next time I get a hankering for some heavily modded Skyrim or whatnot.  Better to have my refunds for mods that don't work be in virtual bucks that aren't also lining Valve's golden pockets. 

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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2015, 12:33:38 am »
I saw that steam was removing donation links from the descriptions of mods on the workshop, which is pretty disgusting.

steam: "You want something for your mod eh? lol, silly modder. you gotta go through us. Steam needs its cut!"
Mod author: "no no, I don't want anything really. the donation thing is just in case someone really likes it and thinks I should get a little something for it."
steam: "pfft. no. **** that. here's how its going to work. You are going to charge for your mod and we are gonna take a cut. bethesdas gonna get a cut too."
Mod author: "but... I dont want to sell my mod."
steam: "just do it ****, or your not gonna be using the workshop."

Thats how I see it going down anyway.

also thanks for the link to the mod piracy thing caconym.
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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2015, 12:35:48 am »
You know what, I'd be fine with paying for 'certain' mods as long as its sizeable and as long as their is a 'cut down' free version that lets you try it before it breaks on you. But I looked on the workshop its fucking bullshit, 2$ for fucking animated fishing minigames, and 75% goes to the mod author and then 20% goes to Bethesda; like what the fuck? Only 5% goes to the actual mod author, and Valve gets to bathe in more money.

And you know what smite me for heresy, but I'm kinda getting sick of Valve's "who fucking cares, we're rich!" policy and their money grubbing 'accessibility' policy with updates for their games. TF2's last update made me full on quit it cold, we waited for that fucking map for ages only for it being removed because it was "too complicated" , and not to mention how they nearly break every gun that was perfectly okay before the patch.

Then they won't make any games, unless someone feels like it because Steam is the end all-be all platform for PC; because its the only one with a decent interface, and player base. Like Hobocop said.

But I can only see this getting worse and worse on our end if they keep this up, they've already gotten flak for their customer service policy... and yet they've done fuck all about it.

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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2015, 12:47:22 am »
http://kotaku.com/paid-skyrim-mod-turns-into-a-cluster****-1699913114
http://www.pcgamer.com/creator-of-removed-paid-skyrim-mod-gives-his-side-of-the-story/

Also steam giving out permission to use resources that don't belong to them and now wont let the mod author take the mod down completely.
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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2015, 12:50:25 am »
This cause such an uproar there is now a subreddit called Fuck Valve.
http://www.reddit.com/r/fuckvalve

People get 1 week suspension for speaking out against the paid modding or really anything negative against the paid for modding.

Paid items under review is pretty funny though

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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2015, 12:55:03 am »
Lol, there is some pretty hilarious **** in there. BUY MY FOLLOWER! 9$! MADE DAGGER VAGUELY FASTER! .25$! Its mostly protest mods though, now that I look at them.
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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2015, 01:09:38 am »
ok, im going to go on a rant here. i kinda like steam, but i really hate it. its kinda nice because games are cheap, patches are often, and it helps with matchmaking. i hate it because A: My net is shit so i cant use it properly B: Valve are goblins who made three good games (Half life one, TF2, and L4D 1) and now everyone worships them C: I JUST WANT TO BUY A FUCKING DISK COPY WITHOUT HAVING TO INSTALL IT ON STEAM AND DOWNLOAD 4 GIGS OF DAY ONE PATCHES BECAUSE THEY CANT MAKE A GAME PROPERLY! D: It starves out game devs that cant get on Steam E: I hate most DRM and finally F: Its just not as satisfying to click a button, its not the same as fighting with the game for 40 minutes to get it installed.
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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2015, 01:31:23 am »
I use steam because it's convenient and has a lot of sales. I also use it because it makes connecting with my friends and playing with them easy. It also makes it easy to for me to get games, as I don't have a local store to get hard copies.
I don't like the DRM, at least everything I've seen of it. I disagree with some of what Steam's done, this being a case in point.

In the end though I'm tired of all of the 'fuck steam' bull shit so I guess I'm not going to continue checking this thread.

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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2015, 01:45:25 am »
Also mod authors can set to "Pay what you want" So i'm guessing that means you don't have to pay for *All* mods.
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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2015, 09:19:13 am »
I use steam because it's convenient and has a lot of sales. I also use it because it makes connecting with my friends and playing with them easy. It also makes it easy to for me to get games, as I don't have a local store to get hard copies.
I don't like the DRM, at least everything I've seen of it. I disagree with some of what Steam's done, this being a case in point.

In the end though I'm tired of all of the '**** steam' bull **** so I guess I'm not going to continue checking this thread.
I like steam for the usefulness, but they have made some stupid decisions. Lemme put the another way. Lets compare steam to a gun. Its convenient, and is overall a good gun, but it has a really high chance to jam up and ruin bullets at any time. Good, but bad. I just hate the monopoly they have on PC gaming right now.
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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2015, 11:00:00 am »
GoG, GMG. two other sites that sell games. Yes not as big but from the looks of a decent size. Now if these guys could build an OPTIONAL client that contains similar features to steam I think they'd be good contenders.

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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2015, 12:05:08 pm »
I really can't understand why GoG isn't as big as Steam, it's a fantastic platform, the games are dirt cheap, they often either have 75% sales on games or outright give them away for free despite how cheap the platform already is
AND THEY'RE DRM FREE
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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2015, 12:24:06 pm »
I really can't understand why GoG isn't as big as Steam, it's a fantastic platform, the games are dirt cheap, they often either have 75% sales on games or outright give them away for free despite how cheap the platform already is
AND THEY'RE DRM FREE
i get a lot of games from GOG too, just mostly older games.
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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2015, 03:32:42 pm »
GOG is pretty good. Wish they had more selection, not that it isnt already prodigious. I recall a couple years ago they tried to raise prices a little bit so they could get funding to acquire more titles to sell, but the community threw an absolute ****storm over the minor price hike and so GOG scrapped the whole plan. Sometimes, the players themselves can be the problem. At least in the case of the GOG thing.
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Re: paying for mods
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2015, 03:35:36 pm »
GOG is pretty good. Wish they had more selection, not that it isnt already prodigious. I recall a couple years ago they tried to raise prices a little bit so they could get funding to acquire more titles to sell, but the community threw an absolute ****storm over the minor price hike and so GOG scrapped the whole plan. Sometimes, the players themselves can be the problem. At least in the case of the GOG thing.
So... GOG is great but the community kinda sucks, Steam kinda sucks but the community is better?
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