Utterly Mad

(02:08:04) Discord: But there's likely less, I don't know. Dogs. There's likely less tons of dogs than tons of gold on the planet. And dogs have a limited shelf life. Meaning no inflation concerns because your currency will expire and degrade. It's also more stable as it's replaceable.
(02:08:30) Discord: Not that we'll ever run out of gold realistically, but we hypothetically could. And it can be hoarded, which is not good for economies, generally speaking
(02:08:38) Discord: So really. Dog standard makes sense.
(02:08:39) Forrest: Dude, I'd trade in dogs
(02:08:41) Mrnocamera: back your currency in cats
(02:08:51) Siege-Loli: I really don't like animals
(02:08:55) Mrnocamera: One full cat is $9.
(02:09:09) Siege-Loli: I'd rather eat a dog than keep it
(02:09:12) Discord: Obviously, it's absurd, but it's to illustrate the point and kinda was the first thing that came to my head
(02:09:28) Forrest: That hamburger will be one quarter-cat, Camera.
(02:09:36) Discord: Well see, another advantage. In the times of shortage because the warlord next door has dammed off the river, you can eat your dog money
(02:09:42) Discord: CAN'T DO THAT WITH GOLD, CAN YOU
(02:09:49) Siege-Loli: SHIT
(02:09:52) Siege-Loli: YOUR RIGHT
(02:09:52) Forrest: YOU CAN TRY, FUCKER
(02:09:59) Mrnocamera: As in it contains a quarter of a cat or it costs that much?
(02:09:59) Forrest: EAT THAT GOLD.
(02:10:02) Discord: *PROBABLY SHOULDN'T DO THAT WITH GOLD, SHOULD YOU
(02:10:07) Siege-Loli: Wait, why don't we use food as currency then
(02:10:15) Siege-Loli: THE PLOT THICKENs
(02:10:17) Mrnocamera: also i wouldn't eat a cat
I would totally eat a dog tho
(02:10:17) Discord: Goes bad too quickly, I'd assume
(02:10:17) Forrest: It costs that much.
(02:10:22) Discord: I mean, for most of history, we did
(02:10:25) Discord: Major trade good
(02:10:31) Forrest: Yeah
(02:10:35) Siege-Loli: Yeeeee
(02:10:39) Discord: Cats taste like squirrels and rabbits
(02:10:40) Mrnocamera: Give me a chicken for this high explosive.
(02:10:59) Siege-Loli: Thats a dimma damn good deal
(02:11:01) Discord: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tQsS1DkNH​ak/maxresdefault.jpg
(02:11:14) Siege-Loli: Pizza
(02:11:15) Siege-Loli: mmm
(02:11:17) Mrnocamera: This nuke will be... Fifteen goats, a chicken, some cows and maybe a pizza
(02:11:17) Discord: You can actually eat gold. But I still think you shouldn't. Shitting gold flakes seems meh.
(02:11:22) Mrnocamera: apa fuck you
(02:11:23) Forrest: Tbh if I had to build a world from scratch food and leisure items would probably be most of the currency
(02:11:24) Mrnocamera: go to hell
(02:11:41) Discord: Been there since you showed up
(02:11:44) Discord: OH ROUGH.
(02:11:55) Siege-Loli: Depends if we get refrigerators and power
(02:12:01) Mrnocamera: don't post food i still haven't eaten ;-;
(02:12:03) Siege-Loli: Then we can all be richer
(02:12:13) Discord: I dunno
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(02:12:15) Mrnocamera: I   H U N G E R
(02:12:15) ChatBot: Wilson logs into the Chat.
(02:12:20) Mrnocamera: F E A S T
(02:12:33) Wilson: Playin' new vegas
(02:12:36) Wilson: Woooo
(02:12:42) Discord: If you could literally grow money, which mostly involves waiting for it to grow and not working, would you really wanna work in a refrigerator factory?
(02:12:52) Mrnocamera: [i[C O N S U M E[/]
(02:12:59) Forrest: But Wilson
(02:13:06) Mrnocamera: aw
(02:13:07) Forrest: Are you playing NV with Dust installed?
(02:13:09) Mrnocamera: thing didn't work
(02:13:10) Discord: Guess that's the flaw in the dog standard too. Why would you do anything besides trying to get dogs to fuck
(02:13:15) Siege-Loli: Depends, how are the conditions at the factory
(02:13:33) Forrest: All Camera does already is try and get dogs to fuck
(02:13:35) Forrest: Oho
(02:13:36) Forrest: Burn
(02:13:44) Mrnocamera: hey
(02:13:53) Siege-Loli: Because I could interact with people. Cure the loneliness problem
(02:13:54) Mrnocamera: my artwork is strictly wolves fucking
(02:13:55) Mrnocamera: get it right
(02:14:10) Forrest: Damn
(02:14:12) Forrest: Wrong canine
(02:14:18) Discord: Probably poor. While I could see there being incentive to invent fridges (cause royalties are even easier than waiting for shit to grow), I doubt construction would progress too far outside of insulation technology
(02:14:18) Wilson: I'm not playing dust, no
(02:14:44) Forrest: So you could be a drying rack maker, Lork
(02:14:45) Discord: This is how the dogscape starts
(02:14:54) Forrest: Damn it Wilson
(02:14:56) Forrest: What a casual
(02:14:57) Siege-Loli: I could see people improving the conditions on their off time
(02:14:59) Mrnocamera: Perigrin is terrified of the Dogscape.
(02:15:09) Siege-Loli: If they get most social interaction from the space
(02:15:17) Discord: "It's more scared than you are of it"
(02:15:39) Discord: Yeah, feasible and logical
(02:15:42) Mrnocamera: the ground starts actively rebuilding itself around you
(02:15:49) Discord: And I mean. It obviously happened
(02:16:23) Discord: When you look at the percentage of global population responsible for food production now compared to even a hundred years ago, it's radically smaller
(02:16:30) Wilson: "Speech 0/30"
(02:16:36) Wilson: Oh.
(02:16:42) Forrest: Pfffft
(02:16:55) Forrest: And yeah food production's going down pretty rapidly
(02:17:09) Forrest: At least in terms of people working
(02:17:14) Siege-Loli: I imagine its because more efficent ways of making food has been made
(02:17:23) Forrest: Yeah
(02:17:32) Forrest: Less manpower required
(02:17:35) Discord: Oh, for sure. To the point that dirt farming is a thing in Western countries
(02:17:57) Discord: The US spends a surprising amount every year to make sure farmers grow nothing. Corn, specifically
(02:18:16) Mrnocamera: ha we're talking about real things
(02:18:20) Discord: Distribution hasn't caught up and probably won't in my life time. But I live in the west so that's not my problem.
(02:18:20) Siege-Loli: Corn products go into a shit ton of things
(02:18:27) Mrnocamera: This is beyond my expert knowlege
(02:18:30) Forrest: Dude, corn made of nothing is great for diets. A lot less calories.
(02:19:18) Discord: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/maki​ng-sense/why-does-the-govt-pay-fa​rmers/
(02:19:32) Discord: Super not really detailed or anything, but it is a thing
(02:19:52) Forrest: This is what I'm talking about guys
(02:20:04) Discord: And a good example of why price fixing doesn't work any better than handouts
(02:20:19) Forrest: Come on, let's take back Australia and become hunter-gatherers, like humans were designed to be
(02:20:48) Mrnocamera: brb
(02:20:55) Discord: Then we could all take lessons from the might koala
(02:21:15) Siege-Loli: Nah, what we need are sentient robots that make everything for us
(02:21:17) Discord: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​gNqQL-1gZF8
(02:21:31) Discord: Well, how do you make any dogs or food or gold then?
(02:21:58) Siege-Loli: We take the dogs, okay and follow me, and we breed them in space
(02:22:12) Siege-Loli: On dog ranchs
(02:22:21) Siege-Loli: in the orbit
(02:22:50) Forrest: We genetically engineer dogs made of organic edible gold
(02:22:55) Discord: And name them all after dogs like Laika and Mushka, sequencially
(02:22:58) Forrest: IT'S DOGS, FOOD, AND GOLD IN ONE.
(02:23:08) Discord: This is Laika MMMCXXXIV
(02:23:25) Siege-Loli: We genetically enhance them to grow gold
(02:23:45) Discord: It would probably be easier to just make them poop gold, and feed them other dogs
(02:23:47) ChatBot: Mrnocamera has been logged out (Timeout).
(02:24:10) Discord: Though that would depend on how much a dog is worth per kilogram relative to gold
(02:24:12) Forrest: Dog miners harvesting gold from asteroids for the human overlords
(02:24:37) Forrest: Depends on which breed of dog, too
(02:24:43) Forrest: If all dogs are the same value that is
(02:24:47) Siege-Loli: GERMAN SHEPARD
(02:24:48) Forrest: Weight varies
(02:25:13) Discord: Well, on one hand, you'd end up with like utterly fucked inbred mutants that don't survive birth eventually if you tried to keep things pure
(02:25:24) Forrest: Woooo
(02:25:32) Discord: On the other hand, it would give things like a purebred chiuaua enough value not to just stomp on them
(02:25:39) Discord: I have mixed feelings about this
(02:26:06) Siege-Loli: I'm okay with this
(02:26:11) Forrest: Afghan Hounds look creepily sentient.
(02:26:22) Discord: Truth
(02:26:31) Discord: Poor Nocam
(02:26:35) Forrest: They unnerve me, and I love dogs
(02:26:44) Discord: No dogs for him when we overthrow Australia
(02:26:55) Forrest: What a rip
(02:27:19) Discord: Breeds kinda make sense though. Cause like otherwise, you have to divide dogs on the spot since it's not like everything would be worth even numbers of dogs
(02:27:33) Forrest: Yeah
(02:27:45) Discord: So like, a dingo would be a penny equivalent, and a chihuaua would be two dollars.
(02:27:48) Siege-Loli: Because I can't pay for a burger with a dog and a half
(02:27:54) Discord: Exactly
(02:28:03) Siege-Loli: I mean, I could but that would be messy
(02:28:05) Discord: You'd need a big wallet though
(02:28:13) Discord: Well, and what do you do with the other half?
(02:28:18) Forrest: Dude, you could make like, a bestselling economical satire novel about making a working system of currency based on dogs.
(02:28:32) Discord: Waitresses would be rich in tips. And probably smell like utter fucking ass because of rotting money
(02:28:35) Forrest: You make the other half into another few burgers
(02:28:43) Siege-Loli: ^
(02:28:56) Siege-Loli: We could also breed the dogs to be smaller and smaller
(02:29:13) Siege-Loli: So I could have a pocket full of poodles
(02:29:15) Discord: Might as well just make the legs vestigial then
(02:29:26) Discord: Otherwise you'd have to chase micro dogs everywhere.
(02:29:27) Siege-Loli: Noodle dogs
(02:29:33) Discord: ^
(02:29:47) Forrest: I imagine we'd have like, personal carrier type things in our working lives
(02:29:55) Forrest: Like a little wagon full of dogs
(02:30:12) Siege-Loli: Imagine a vending machine
(02:30:15) Discord: You'd fuck the leash industry harder than Clark Gable fucked undershirts if you made them tiny and motionless, too
(02:30:21) Forrest: Pfffffffffft
(02:30:25) Discord: So economically, it's better to just hire a carrier
(02:30:32) Discord: HAHA
(02:30:33) Siege-Loli: You stick the dog inside the vending machine
(02:30:42) Siege-Loli: It grinds them up
(02:30:45) Forrest: I'm fucking dying
(02:30:46) Discord: THIS MACHINE DOES NOT ACCEPT DASHOUNDS OR LARGER
(02:30:53) Forrest: Pifapcma
(02:31:00) Wilson: What
(02:31:02) Wilson: The
(02:31:07) Wilson: Fuchic
(02:31:10) Forrest: "TAKE MY FUCKING ROTWEILER YOU WORTHLESS MACHINE"
(02:31:14) Discord: Well, it can't grind them up. It would just put them into storage to be used as change
(02:31:21) Discord: And who says ground up dogs are worth anything?
(02:31:28) Forrest: Exactly
(02:31:32) Discord: WAYYYY too much potential to counterfit using cow meat or something then
(02:31:35) Forrest: That's like minced dollar bills
(02:31:41) Discord: Exactly.
(02:31:45) Siege-Loli: We use them for biomaterial for the food replicators
(02:32:00) Siege-Loli: Plus the machine can read the dna
(02:32:06) Siege-Loli: So you can't use cow
(02:32:31) Discord: Yeah, but that fucks the economy too. Because instead of employing people at McDogald's or whatever, you've replaced them all with machines
(02:32:55) Siege-Loli: A sacrifice we must make
(02:33:00) Discord: Wilson, you should really get in on the ground floor of this
(02:33:05) Siege-Loli: They'll learn new trades
(02:33:16) Discord: No, cause you have robots doing everything else already
(02:33:36) Siege-Loli: Then we get to enjoy life with robo servents
(02:33:41) Discord: Dog breeding is like the only feasible occupation now. Besides dog caretaker
(02:33:45) Forrest: I'm guessing the main gambling industry would be wiener dog races, which exist near me
(02:33:51) Siege-Loli: And spend our time breeding dogs for gun and profit
(02:33:58) Siege-Loli: fun*
(02:34:18) Discord: But then everyone is doing it, inflation soars, and now rather than wheelbarrows full of tiny legless dogs, you need dumptrucks
(02:34:39) Discord: Efficiency goes down as people spend hours feeding schnauzers into machines to pay for their french fries
(02:34:47) Siege-Loli: We cycle which dogs are worth more every five years
(02:35:19) Discord: And essentially replace the federal reserve with the nazis at the American Kennel Club?
(02:35:33) Discord: Now we're back on what amounts to a paper money standard
(02:35:47) Siege-Loli: Except its more fun
(02:35:56) Siege-Loli: And we're all insanely rich
(02:36:04) Siege-Loli: With robo slaves
(02:36:05) Discord: Until PETA allies with the WRA.
(02:36:20) Forrest: The WELSH REPUBLICAN ARMY
(02:36:25) Siege-Loli: Too bad they're branded as terrorists and rounded up and shot
(02:36:33) Discord: They'll try to coup to replace dogs with sheep
(02:36:37) Forrest: CTHULHU MGWLNI FATHERDADDY FHTANG IA IA
(02:36:50) Discord: Because trading womenfolk is already a thing in many parts of the world
(02:37:11) Siege-Loli: A FUN PAST TIME
(02:37:32) Forrest: ph'ngar fatherdaddy fhtang SHEEPFUCKERS ia ia fhtang