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Title: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on April 24, 2015, 08:39:56 pm
Anyone remember this from the DDA forum? It was big for awhile but slowly died down due to it taking so much signature space. I think I am going to bring it back to this forum! :D

Link: http://dragcave.net/

Fun Fact: Since the names of the Dragons have to be unique I went with google translating them to latin, except one which I had an Idea but it didn't translate well in Latin so I put it in spanish. It was my whiptail dragon named Gato de las nueve colas which means Cat o' Nine Tails, referencing the whip of the same name.

Here are my dragons
Spoiler (hover to show)

Going to get some eggs going soon.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Perigrin on April 24, 2015, 09:18:31 pm
what is this? im doing it, why not.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on April 25, 2015, 12:28:03 am
what is this? im doing it, why not.
Here's the rundown.

To get dragons you need dragon eggs.
There is 3 ways to get dragon eggs, you can go to the 6 areas and pick up an egg [this can be hard when it's more active as people can take the eggs before you.], you can take abandoned eggs before they die, or you can breed dragons.

With your egg you need views. Basically the eggs grow with each view and unique view and clicks, if they don't get enough before they hatch or grow within a certain timespan they die.
Soon they will grow up and there you go you got a dragon in your collection.

You can name them, give them descriptions, kill them [why would you do that you monster.], release them, and breed them.
Annoyingly the names have to be unique no 2 dragons can have the same name. This is why I have taking to naming them in latin.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Perigrin on April 25, 2015, 01:11:45 am
what is this? im doing it, why not.
Here's the rundown.

To get dragons you need dragon eggs.
There is 3 ways to get dragon eggs, you can go to the 6 areas and pick up an egg [this can be hard when it's more active as people can take the eggs before you.], you can take abandoned eggs before they die, or you can breed dragons.

With your egg you need views. Basically the eggs grow with each view and unique view and clicks, if they don't get enough before they hatch or grow within a certain timespan they die.
Soon they will grow up and there you go you got a dragon in your collection.

You can name them, give them descriptions, kill them [why would you do that you monster.], release them, and breed them.
Annoyingly the names have to be unique no 2 dragons can have the same name. This is why I have taking to naming them in latin.
i could use some dragon clicks.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Siege-Loli on April 25, 2015, 03:57:04 am
Now I can give birth to the dragon children I've always wanted.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Perigrin on April 25, 2015, 09:50:57 am
So many dragons. im made of excitement to see them hatch.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on April 25, 2015, 12:50:27 pm
I adopted one abandoned egg. I think I'll name it Charlie.

(http://dragcave.net/image/FOzJl.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/FOzJl)
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on April 25, 2015, 04:06:42 pm
So many dragons. i'm made of excitement to see them hatch.
Why are your eggs lined up vertically. You should have it vertical, so it doesn't look as bad.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on April 25, 2015, 05:32:32 pm
I clicked on everyone's eggs, but seriously Bubbadoo you need to shrink your sig.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on April 26, 2015, 12:00:49 pm
(http://dragcave.net/image/FOzJl.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/FOzJl)

MY CHILD. IT HAS EVOLVED. SOON, WE SHALL BECOME RULERS OF THE WORLD.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Perigrin on April 26, 2015, 12:34:45 pm
How many clicks/views foes it take for one to hatch?
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on April 26, 2015, 02:09:16 pm
I'm not sure, actually. I just signed Charlie up for like five different hatcheries. Somewhere around 400-700 views seems to be the sweet spot for hatching, but beyond that it's a mystery. Could be random, for all I know.

Double Post Dodge!: I adopted a couple more abandoned eggs. The blue one I'll name Benjamin and the White/Red one I'm gonna call Stacie. (http://dragcave.net/image/msSDn.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/msSDn) (http://dragcave.net/image/HJpwp.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/HJpwp)
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on April 27, 2015, 08:59:27 pm
All my durgons are growing up! Look at all the little hatchling durgons!
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on April 27, 2015, 09:12:41 pm
I snatched two more abandoned eggs. These things are like potato chips, you can't have just one. I'm thinking Gerald for the dark blue one and Anastasia for the light blue one.

Oh and I did some more research on hatching and all that jazz: Eggs can't hatch until they have 4 days left on their Time Until Death timer. The same goes for hatchlings, I believe. Eggs will hatch after that 4 day mark, but the amount of views needed is still unknown. Most sources say that 400+ views should be enough, but unique views and clicks do factor into that. Clicks are worth more than unique views which are worth more than ordinary views, but the actual algorithm that totals the views and decides hatch-ability is still unknown.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on April 28, 2015, 12:15:01 am
And if you manage to starve your eggs of views until right before they are going to die you have a chance on getting one of the rarest dragons, the neglected dragon species.

But why would you do that you monster.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Perigrin on April 28, 2015, 01:18:16 am
Daaaawwwww, my middle baby dragon hatched. HIS NAME IS TIMOTHY OLIVER!
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on April 28, 2015, 04:14:00 am
I have a feeling this belongs in Last Man Gaming, though. I have a DragCave account, yes, and I have many dragons. My most visited dragon has like 20k visits without advertising anywhere but the Cata Forums.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on April 28, 2015, 04:21:19 am
I have a feeling this belongs in Last Man Gaming, though. I have a DragCave account, yes, and I have many dragons. My most visited dragon has like 20k visits without advertising anywhere but the Cata Forums.
Well is dragcave really a game though, it's more like a social... thing. I don't know I need sleep.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on April 28, 2015, 09:31:36 am
(http://dragcave.net/image/d6Kuy.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/d6Kuy)
(http://dragcave.net/image/Bweu8.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/Bweu8)
(http://dragcave.net/image/l7N6L.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/l7N6L)
Pls click. My new dragons need clicks to eat. pls. (don't spare any clicks for those poor african children >:()
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on April 28, 2015, 04:58:55 pm
I currently have ten hatchlings/eggs in my possession right now (I grabbed a few more from the abandoned pile), and I have a feeling I'm going to run out of space in my signature if I add all their full BBCodes. To fix this issue, I'm going to just have Charlie be my account mascot and have his picture link to my profile page. HoOoOoOopefully this works.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on April 29, 2015, 03:30:47 am
My new adopted baby needs clicks: (http://dragcave.net/image/deU38.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/deU38)
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on April 29, 2015, 06:20:26 pm
Waaaaaugh, Charlie has grown to become BIG CHARLIE. It is a glorious day.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on April 29, 2015, 07:19:36 pm
Every time someone posts in this thread, I click on all their dragons.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Siege-Loli on April 30, 2015, 12:12:01 am
Save my dragon babies Flame!
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on April 30, 2015, 01:43:51 am
Flame, don't you dare save clicks for the african children, I already had to ER one of my eggs.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on April 30, 2015, 11:58:21 am
Actually it's blocked at school so if I look at it at school I'll have to go back and click later.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on April 30, 2015, 04:45:40 pm
As it happens, adopting abandoned eggs does lead to some faster growth because their timers reach 4 days faster than eggs taken from the world. That also means I'm now swimming in hatchlings. I've literally filled up my scroll with babies. Send help.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on April 30, 2015, 06:22:01 pm
Quit adopting dragons you click whore
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Rhodri on April 30, 2015, 06:57:30 pm
I demand clicks, slaves.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on April 30, 2015, 07:14:33 pm
Quit adopting dragons you click ****
I CAN'T, THEY'RE JUST SO SMALL. I NEED ALL OF THEM.

Double Post dodge:
I demand clicks, slaves.
You should consider adding your eggs to a hatchery (https://forums.dragcave.net/index.php?showtopic=89465). That's how I've been getting all these darn views.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on April 30, 2015, 07:29:56 pm
Wow, the swear I used wasn't even four letters. That's... surprisingly effective censorship.

C L I C K W H O R E S
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 01, 2015, 06:03:35 pm
(http://dragcave.net/image/CIfPd.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/CIfPd)
(http://dragcave.net/image/8febA.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/8febA)
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 01, 2015, 07:10:01 pm
OMG Lorknis your tiny egg is so cute I need one
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Siege-Loli on May 02, 2015, 01:58:28 am
OMG Lorknis your tiny egg is so cute I need one
Aw thanks Flame. I'll now name it Flamemeister.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 02, 2015, 06:44:48 pm
aww yiss clicked on it 5 times instead of just once
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 02, 2015, 06:54:15 pm
Muh little egg needs views, look how ute it is: (http://dragcave.net/image/LWNTm.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/LWNTm)
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Wheel-Son on May 02, 2015, 06:56:06 pm
Quote from: Lorknis's Dragon
(http://dragcave.net/images/c2pO.gif)
Oh ma ga so cuuute.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 02, 2015, 06:57:29 pm
Quote from: Lorknis's Dragon
(http://dragcave.net/images/c2pO.gif)
Oh ma ga so cuuute.
B-but..: I have one too ;-; I just need it to grow up so I can incubate my eggs
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 02, 2015, 07:27:04 pm
Can you send people eggs? If so, I might make an account once the dragon reaches adulthood so I can have my own cute egg.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on May 02, 2015, 07:54:08 pm
Can you send people eggs? If so, I might make an account once the dragon reaches adulthood so I can have my own cute egg.
Only when you have a dragon with a certain skill. I think it the skill was called teleport but I can't remember what dragon has it. Check the wiki.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on May 02, 2015, 08:25:38 pm
Double post but I just got some more eggs, all of them orphans.

(http://tinyurl.com/o5z8u9g/.gif) (http://tinyurl.com/ov92vqj)(http://tinyurl.com/oort6ma/.gif) (http://tinyurl.com/oudq8lk)(http://tinyurl.com/kbkfywb/.gif) (http://tinyurl.com/kspb2wo)(http://tinyurl.com/nms4gpo/.gif) (http://tinyurl.com/p6j66gw)
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 03, 2015, 04:57:05 am
Can you send people eggs? If so, I might make an account once the dragon reaches adulthood so I can have my own cute egg.
Only when you have a dragon with a certain skill. I think it the skill was called teleport but I can't remember what dragon has it. Check the wiki.
Dat is a Magi Dragon, my good chump.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 03, 2015, 06:54:37 am
Rhodri, why u no use emergency room to hatch your eggs before the time is up?
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Rhodri on May 03, 2015, 02:39:14 pm
Rhodri, why u no use emergency room to hatch your eggs before the time is up?
Because I enjoy watching them suffer. What emergency room?
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 03, 2015, 02:53:58 pm
Rhodri, why u no use emergency room to hatch your eggs before the time is up?
Because I enjoy watching them suffer. What emergency room?
The Allure of Neglected Dragons is a good one. It has day care, and if your egg / hatchling has 4 days or less, you can place them into the more high priority queue. I got 1k views overnight in ER lol
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 05, 2015, 04:00:25 pm
Any luck on anyone getting one of those psychic dragons so they can send eggs?
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 05, 2015, 04:35:56 pm
Any luck on anyone getting one of those psychic dragons so they can send eggs?
My old account actually has one. I could breed eggs. But it's a 50% chance once a week.
EDIT: Eep, no luck this week :(
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 05, 2015, 05:47:08 pm
Oh well. I wanted one of those tiny eggs. Any idea where I can get one?
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Siege-Loli on May 05, 2015, 06:17:29 pm
My orange egg is a Magi Dragon so if everyone helps it out, I can send DA EEGS!
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 05, 2015, 11:21:51 pm
My orange egg is a Magi Dragon so if everyone helps it out, I can send DA EEGS!
Only if you promise to breed moar and send them to people to start your own Magi Dragon business!
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 05, 2015, 11:27:18 pm
Flame, I got a tiny egg for you if you want to tell me your username on DragCave?
EDIT: I got these: (http://dragcave.net/image/RjZ7A.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/RjZ7A)(http://dragcave.net/image/3VnLF.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/3VnLF)
(You will have to place them in the emergency room immediately. I can't send them for 2 days. Aagh.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Siege-Loli on May 05, 2015, 11:29:08 pm
Magi Dragons for everyone!
My orange egg is a Magi Dragon so if everyone helps it out, I can send DA EEGS!
Only if you promise to breed moar and send them to people to start your own Magi Dragon business!
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 06, 2015, 07:34:14 am
Hold on, let me get home so Dragcave is unblocked and I can make an account.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Perigrin on May 06, 2015, 08:01:14 am
Got a new egg.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Siege-Loli on May 06, 2015, 08:06:22 am
Make sure to be careful when you sit on your EEGS! Peri-kun.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Siege-Loli on May 06, 2015, 04:35:12 pm
Ok so my cute red dragon has grown up now. How do I get it to fuck and make EEGS?
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 06, 2015, 04:39:21 pm
Ok so my cute red dragon has grown up now. How do I get it to **** and make EEGS?
We need to wait for a female to grow up. Of course, it can't be a Pygmy because that c0ck would split a pygmy in half.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 06, 2015, 04:53:20 pm
Doublepost because WOOT I STOLE A MAGI DRAGON ON MY NEW ACCOUNT AUFAUGFUAGUPOUPGFLFIFL
(http://dragcave.net/image/vjA0p.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/vjA0p)
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 06, 2015, 05:18:50 pm
Clicked on all the dragons plus extra for the magi, account name TheFlame, GIMME MINI EGG

EDIT: What is the description of the mini egg? I think I can steal one...
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on May 06, 2015, 05:21:07 pm
Oh wow I managed to swipe a magi too!
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 06, 2015, 05:25:34 pm
GIMME CLICKS
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 06, 2015, 05:26:52 pm
Flame, there is a wiki. The adorable little eggs are pygmy eggs. If you get super lucky you could find a chicken egg. A chicken is oneof the rarest "dragons" there are.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on May 06, 2015, 05:33:38 pm
Flame, there is a wiki. The adorable little eggs are pygmy eggs. If you get super lucky you could find a chicken egg. A chicken is one of the rarest "dragons" there are.
Ditto with the dinosaur eggs.

There is also the zombie and neglected dragons that are also extremely rare.
The process of getting them also has a high chance of killing the dragon.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 06, 2015, 05:39:19 pm
Flame, there is a wiki. The adorable little eggs are pygmy eggs. If you get super lucky you could find a chicken egg. A chicken is one of the rarest "dragons" there are.
Ditto with the dinosaur eggs.

There is also the zombie and neglected dragons that are also extremely rare.
The process of getting them also has a high chance of killing the dragon.
Zombie dragons require the dragon to die and then be revived by another dragon. Can't remember the breed.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on May 06, 2015, 06:29:42 pm
Rejoice! A child has been born this day to Scott Hvita and Neilina Ferskt! A neotropical dragon, no less! Huzzah!
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 06, 2015, 07:04:17 pm
What's the difference between a click and a view? What do each of them do?
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on May 06, 2015, 08:18:44 pm
Clicks come from people visiting your page and navigating to the stats page of your dragon. Unique views appear when someone who has never seen your dragon before views said dragon, and overall views come from all kinds of views regardless of how many times that IP has viewed the dragon or in what way.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on May 06, 2015, 09:28:18 pm
Clicks come from people visiting your page and navigating to the stats page of your dragon. Unique views appear when someone who has never seen your dragon before views said dragon, and overall views come from all kinds of views regardless of how many times that IP has viewed the dragon or in what way.
Also overall views limits the number to a certain number per IP to prevent cheating and shit. Also I believe you can't just refresh to get another view too.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 07, 2015, 12:34:29 am
Clicks come from people visiting your page and navigating to the stats page of your dragon. Unique views appear when someone who has never seen your dragon before views said dragon, and overall views come from all kinds of views regardless of how many times that IP has viewed the dragon or in what way.
Also overall views limits the number to a certain number per IP to prevent cheating and ****. Also I believe you can't just refresh to get another view too.
You are wrong here. You can theoretically get infinite views from one IP address, but you need unique views to get those views. 1 unique view gives you 15 views capacity.

EDIT: I caught another Magi: (http://dragcave.net/image/J9UNc.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/J9UNc)
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 07, 2015, 03:19:42 pm
Woo, magi dragons. I'm going to see if I can get one. Where are they found?

EDIT: Got one!
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 07, 2015, 03:30:36 pm
Flame, you might want to add your eggs to a click site like this one:
http://www.coup-detat.info/NDER/NDDC.php
I saved Lorknis's eggs with the ER function of this site. You won't get enough views on this forum.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 07, 2015, 04:11:05 pm
What is the 'scroll name' the site talks about?

EDIT: How do I put a dragon in there
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 07, 2015, 04:29:57 pm
What is the 'scroll name' the site talks about?

EDIT: How do I put a dragon in there
Scroll name is your account's name, and yours is "TheFlame", isn't it? type "TheFlame" to the box and click submit. It should show all your dragons and boxes next to them that you can tick. Tick the boxes next to the dragons you want added and select "update your dragons".
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 07, 2015, 04:33:21 pm
Thanks! I've been on that site clicking eggs for 20 minutes. I am a generous lover
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 07, 2015, 04:37:20 pm
I am a generous lover
Sig'd.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 08, 2015, 07:44:04 pm
My magi dragon hatched,  named it Magebreath.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Zaweri Runewright on May 09, 2015, 11:26:48 am
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/61459622.jpg)
Out of sig space, send help.
Also it's so touching to see Lorknis's eggs grow up after I saved them in the egg stage in ER ;-;
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on May 09, 2015, 01:45:44 pm
You can do what I did and just have one picture link to your scroll, or go and generate an incubator inside your account settings.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Flame on May 10, 2015, 12:09:41 pm
I got me another mini egg!
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on May 15, 2015, 11:40:50 pm
It would be cool if someone could send me a pink dragon.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on May 16, 2015, 12:47:28 am
What's your scroll name? I've got a pink egg here that I don't really need.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on May 16, 2015, 02:37:45 am
bubbadoo15
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on May 22, 2015, 12:00:00 am
[HOT NEW DRAGON NEWS]

THREE NEW DRAGONS ARE NOW AVAILABLE FOR THE 9TH BIRTHDAY OF DC

GET THEM AT ALPINE, FOREST, AND DESERT.

[More info] (https://forums.dragcave.net/?showtopic=168588)
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on May 23, 2015, 01:15:23 am
Er mah gerd look at how fluffy my dragon is!
(http://dragcave.net/image/fnGwC.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/fnGwC)
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on May 27, 2015, 09:14:07 pm
I have an extra anniversary dragon if anyone missed out on it and wants her.
(http://dragcave.net/image/g1OPg.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/g1OPg)
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Siege-Loli on May 29, 2015, 02:44:56 am
That's a swag dragon you got there Bubs. I wouldn't mind taking her, if you don't mind.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Hibou on May 30, 2015, 01:20:40 am
Oh_baby.jpg

I got a bronze trophy! My scroll is now 50 dragons stronk, and growing. Soon my army will be large enough to take over the WORLD.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Bubbadoo on June 01, 2015, 11:32:05 am
That's a swag dragon you got there Bubs. I wouldn't mind taking her, if you don't mind.
Alright PM me your scroll name and I will PM the link to send my dragon to you.
Title: Re: The Dragon Cave
Post by: Perigrin on July 23, 2015, 11:04:02 pm
(http://dragcave.net/image/IjfRb.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/IjfRb)(http://dragcave.net/image/z1hfX.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/z1hfX)(http://dragcave.net/image/Ei9tc.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/Ei9tc)(http://dragcave.net/image/e4G95.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/e4G95)(http://dragcave.net/image/sdddY.gif) (http://dragcave.net/view/sdddY)
Im leaving them here, my Sig was getting too big.