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Title: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on August 30, 2016, 04:15:13 pm

I'm not really all that artistic like most of the people here, but I figured I'd share this for the other gun guys.

So, sometimes I get a little free time at work in the shop, which is nice. Recently, I've begun playing around with a Ruger SR1911 I've had kicking around for a couple years. I've built and rebuilt a few 1911s, but never done much in depth stuff, just swapping bits here and there.

This one, I've decided to go full out on. It started off looking kinda like this:

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2gvo8yc.jpg)

First step was to yank the slide release. It got replaced with a forged Norinco - they aren't great, but are HUGE. I have small hands and am left-handed, and this is the only thing big enough that I can consistently hit it with my index finger. Next, the mag release was taken down a bit, and recheckered. Looks like the factory, but is just a bit shorter so I don't accidentally hit that one. Then the safety. Some decent Wilson Combat ambis go in - low profile since I've never really used safeties, as you can't pack a gun around here.

Factory Novaks were yanked and replaced with Tru-Glo stuff, thrice actually. Funny story, I was busy doing other shit and had someone else here put in the first two pairs. They both fell out within about 25 rounds. Somewhere out in the dirt, there's $600 worth of glow in the dark gun sights. Third time, I did it myself, and they're still there, thankfully. For the record, tritium sights are kind of a waste of money even when they don't fall out - I've got a 12 ga for home defense if the 80 year old woman next door decides to try to murder me, and besides whipping around the house with this thing and having the glows make me feel all badass, they are kinda pointless.

Grips were originally swapped with some Pachmayer American Legends with a wrap, which got lost in the shop somewhere when I did the next step. So, it's got grippers for now, which are likely gonna get chucked in favor of some VZ grips.

And re-profiling will need to happen. I was digging around in a bin upstairs, and stumbled on a jig for bobtailing 1911s. This is badass, as my little hands don't fit the standard GOVT sized guns as well as most of my other pistols. So into the chopping block it went. Considering I'd never done one before, it turned out ok. I used an Ed Brown mainspring housing that just happened to be around - it's pretty super aggressive, which is good.

Finally, a bit of trigger tweaking, a little polishing here and there, and this is what I've got now:

(http://i68.tinypic.com/214zfyf.jpg)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/2qv9qj4.jpg)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/30rnwwp.jpg)

And one with the grippers on it, cause why not. As I said, I didn't bother to profile them since I can't find my scissors and plan on swapping them in the next week or two for something nicer.

Spoiler (hover to show)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/291orjo.jpg)

For some reason, TinyPic insists that this is the picture I uploaded. So here's a direct link to that one instead. (http://i66.tinypic.com/291orjo.jpg) Which doesn't work either. I don't know. Picture that with rubber finger groove grips on it.

Still to do:

1. Replace those grips. I'm thinking some VZ Operators in tiger stripe (http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/grip-parts/grips/1911-operator-ii-g10-grips-prod55158.aspx?avs%7cMake_3=1911), or maybe some Wilsons (http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/grip-parts/grips/1911-g10-grips-prod42855.aspx?avs%7cMake_3=1911).
2. Laser engraving. I'm kinda undecided on it, but I have this handy laser engraver here. I'm thinking either grip medallion inserts, or where the ruger logo is now - might put this (http://www.vygo.net/templeoferis/pictures/sacredchao.jpg) there, so that it will match my discordian themed tattoos. I might not, too. Depends what color it ends up being. Medallions would likely go best with the "theme" here, but I'm not sure if I'll find time to make them.
3. Cerakoting. I've gotten everything all tightened up, which was a mistake, as I'd still like to cerakote at least part of it. I'm thinking a nice, simple, two tone flat black with the slide, kind of like this (https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2014/09/01/3449093_01_rock_island_two_tone_1911_45_p_640.jpg). Those are the same type grips that were originally on it, and might end up going back on it if I skip step 1 and can find them.
4. Cerakote the magazine baseplates. I've got a color scheme I've used forever for the one handgun that I do leave at home for my wife, so that she knows which ones have bullets that will go through the wall and kill the kids, and which ones are frangible, should she ever decide to lose it and shoot the house up. Black for FMJ, gold for HP, and blue for frangibles. I have a million 1911 mags around and don't usually leave this one at home, so I might not bother with this.
5. Replace the grip screws with these (http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/grip-parts/grip-screws/1911-custom-grip-screws-prod55231.aspx?avs%7cMake_3=1911). Cause why the fuck not.

After this project is done, it's on to learning how to sew and making a holster for this motherfucker:

(http://i63.tinypic.com/x2qyiu.jpg)

And if you fellas insist on some "art", here's a drawing I did of some customer who kept me on the phone for an hour and a half. I was running out of shit to scribble well before the call was over.

Spoiler (hover to show)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/x5rz9j.jpg)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Siege-Loli on August 30, 2016, 04:41:28 pm

Best fucking drawing ever.

So here's my question:

What would you say is the most memorable thing that you've done in your life so far?

And because I'm me (and I do this on every AMA) How big yo dick.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on August 30, 2016, 05:23:53 pm

Have you ever seen a gun melt?
Plastic guns are great.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on August 30, 2016, 05:24:17 pm

But this isn't my AMA! Lulz.

Still, I'll give you a very long answer, because that's a cool question and I'm really bored and stuck at work.

Hrm. Well, probably the objectively memorable thing I did was living in a cabin in the middle of the woods for a year. It was kinda different - my ex-wife and I ran a little grow op out there, and it was literally in the middle of nowhere, no power (except an old gen set, like, way older than me, that we gave up on in the first week), no running water, and most of the stuff we ate we either shot or grew. So that was pretty memorable.

Also traveled alot, mostly backpacking and kinda vagabonding around. It's not particularly memorable because I was pretty fucked up for most of it and can't remember half of it. I distinctly remember going through Montana or Wyoming one time, and see all these cars lined up on cinder blocks in a guy's yard. At the end of the line was this huge Sikorsky S-61, also on cinder blocks. It's probably the thing that sticks out most in my memory from that era of my life, despite having traveled a few continents and spent alot of time sleeping on beaches and shit. I don't know why.

Probably the most memorable terrible thing I did is as follows, which I've copied and pasted from the WT forums since I'm not writing it twice:

Spoiler:  It's LONG (hover to show)

A few years ago, I had what you could call a pretty serious drinking problem, as well as what you'd maybe call a less serious drug problem. When you go to the local version of AA, you're asked why your there and what your worst moment was that made you decide to get help.

I was also one of those kids who there's just something "not right" about in highschool, and was shunned accordingly. I don't know why, I think i was a pretty decent kid, but for whatever reason, other kids were dicks. Anyway, this left me with this kinda nuts sense of vengeance for a few years afterwards that would really come out when I was drunk.
 
But anyway, when I went to AA, I ended up telling a different story involving some petty crime or something (I honestly don't remember anymore) that's probably objectively worse than the real story. But the real story is kinda funny if not a little pathetic, and I've never really got to tell anyone. So:
 
At the time this happened, I was "living" with four or five other people in this utter slum of a townhouse - when I say living, I mean paying rent. I'd effectively moved in with the woman I ended up getting married to and who helped me get a little cleaned up, but still spent alot of time over at the old place, getting drunk or high with the guys. While I can look at it now and go "yeesh", at the time it seemed like a lot of fun.
 
Now, for the most part, these were actually pretty decent people, but there was one guy there who I just did not get along with at all when we were both drunk. Originally, he had just asked to stay on the couch, but somehow ended up living there rent free for a couple of months. He'd get very, very competitive about literally anything, and usually the night would end when he'd start trying to fight people. He was also what I'll call "bossy" for lack of a better word, and allergic to pretty much everything under the sun, which meant that when he was there, we had to lock the pets in the basement, eat certain foods outside, etc. etc. I don't think he was actually that allergic to anything, he was just kind of a prick. Anyway, long story short, he just really rubbed me the wrong way.
 
Anyway, one afternoon it was just me and him there, all of our other roommates being out of town or at work - I live in a little oilpatch town, so at work usually means in camp for a week or three. This guy didn't have a job, and I have pretty normal hours, so it was just he and I, and we got LOADED. As the day went on, he got super belligerent, and honestly, I was getting pretty sick of it. So, I left as usual, but vowed to teach him a bit of a lesson.
 
Now, when I say this place was a slum, I mean it was possibly the sketchiest place you could possibly live in a town this size. Half the places didn't have windows, people got shot in the parking lot once or twice a year, everything stunk like shit and crack, etc. etc. There was also ALOT of stray animals roaming around. I always thought the winters would kill them, but I guess not.
 
"How's this relevant?" you ask. Well, for some reason, rather than do something a little more direct like actually fighting the guy or something, I figured the best way to mess with him would be to gather up as many stray cats as I could find, sneak them in the house, and turn them loose. I was REALLY drunk.
 
So, that's what I did. I spent five or six hours catching cats and getting more drunk, and ended up with about two dozen of them. It was two or three in the morning by this point, so I figured he'd be asleep. I snuck in the back, and more or less just threw this big box of cats into the living room, slammed the door, and booked it home. I remember being kind of surprised that the noise didn't wake him up, but I got the hell out of there as quick as I could.
 
Surprisingly a few weeks went by, I didn't hear anything from him about it. I did, however, hear about from one of the other guys who lived there. Turns out that buddy didn't wake up because he wasn't there. In fact, no one was there, for about two weeks. In the mean time, the cats had literally destroyed the place - they got into all the rooms and tore the place apart, fought with eachother and bled everywhere, shat all over the place in the manner of a bunch of sick, half starved cats, etc. etc. This was not a nice place to begin with, but after two weeks locked in there, the cats turned it from a slum into an active war zone. Where the weapons were feces and cat smell.
 
As I said, I heard about all this from one of the other guys who lived there, who happened to be the first one home. Being that I was a bit of a scuzz in those days, I told him I hadn't been by there in a few weeks, since I didn't think anyone but the unlikable dude was there.
 
"Do you think (that guy) left the door open or something?" I suggested.
 
Anyway, in the end, (that guy) moved out right when he got home a couple weeks later. Everyone blamed him, but to be fair, he ended up kinda going a little ballistic at the end and also literally crapping on everyone else's stuff on the day he moved out, so I don't feel too bad for him per se. Everyone else moved out within a few months simply because the only way to actually clean the place up would have been to burn it down. It might be because there's a bit of a recession up here right now, but as far as I know, the place is still empty and the property management company has made zero effort to even try cleaning it out - for the record, this was maybe four or five years ago, and it's still empty.

So, that's how I literally killed a house armed with nothing but a box of cats.

All that shit said though, the thing I find most memorable, objectivity or "gee, that's cool" aside is having my kid. Admittedly my ex-wiffle did most of the work, but she's just such an awesome little person. It's hard to describe, but it changed my life and it's pretty cool.

My dick is bigger than the barrel on the 1911, but smaller than the barrel on the walker.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on August 30, 2016, 05:24:57 pm

Double post because it's my random crap thread.

Not in person, but I've seen videos of glocks melt. I've seen quite a few guns explode though.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on August 31, 2016, 06:41:10 pm

That revolver is gorgeous.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on August 31, 2016, 07:08:00 pm

Thanks! I used to have a pair, but they weigh like 4 or 5 lbs each and would pull my pants down during shoots. They honestly looked alot smaller in the picture before I ordered them. So just one now. That one is a Walker Colt replica - the Walker was the most powerful pistol in the world for around 100 years, and I can tell you anecdotally that a full charge will pop a hole through the armor of a UH-1 helicopter from about 25 yards. It's certainly a good gun for a lich, haha.

Here's a few more from my collection that I happen to have at work right now that you might like if you're a wheelgun guy. Nothing too remarkable anymore (I've sold most of my guns since I got married and shit), but still some stuff you might find neat.

(http://i66.tinypic.com/30v2eli.jpg)

My Ruger GP-100. I'm honestly more of a semi guy, but I love this thing. It will feature later in this thread once I get a bit of work done on it that I've been putting off forever. I've got a 4 1/4 inch new model here someplace too, but it's kinda ugly.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/95y4o2.jpg)

Once opon a time, I had half a dozen cowboy guns. Then I realized I only have two hands and don't shoot any of them outside of CASS stuff anyway. So I kept these two - one is a .357 Ruger Vaquero Bisley special edition that fits more like a 1911, so is likeable. The other one is just a cheap Pietta .45, but has pretty engraving.

(http://i64.tinypic.com/favio7.jpg)

Just bought these two and the case. I don't really want either of them, but buddy only wanted a couple hundred bucks, so they'll flip profitably. The Pietta Navy has had a fuckload of stuff done to it (not by me). The other one is a Remington 1858, probably the best blackpowder gun ever invented.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/1z6qwig.jpg)

This is just a shitty little Enfield. I had the full collection of these and the Webleys at one point, but just sold them all. This one is sold to someone too, but is still at the store for some reason.

Yay gun porn!

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on August 31, 2016, 07:19:03 pm

I like revolvers. There's something about their simplicity and elegance that speaks to me. Especially the ones with a long profile, like that Walker or the Remington 1858.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on August 31, 2016, 07:23:01 pm

>Revolvers

I'm a gun guy, despite not personally owning any, and gunporn's a pretty big part of what I do online. And revolvers are like, 80% of the gunporn that I look at. SO YEAH. I LIKE REVOLVERS. Already have a few picked out that I'ma get once I've got a bit of cash that's actually mine.

Hnnng. Colt Walker <3

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on August 31, 2016, 07:27:08 pm

Uberti Walkers run for something like $480 CDN (so like $25 for you guys or whatever), and are really cheap to shoot. I pay something like $40 CDN for a pound of power (which at a max charge of 60 grains will give me something like 115 shots), $15 for 100 balls, and $11 for 100 caps. It's seriously one of the cheapest non-9mm guns per shot I think I own, at $0.66 cents a shot or so (which now, doing the math, makes me realize how much money I blow through on ammo in a year, gads), and is just fucking mindblowingly fun to shoot - fire and smoke and all kinds of chaos spew forth from it. I'd highly recommend one.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on August 31, 2016, 07:32:15 pm

Holy shit, $369 for Uberti Colt 1849 pocket revolvers. And $459 for the Walker in American dollars, to be exact. That's pretty awesome.

AND $369 FOR THE FUCKING REMINGTON TOO?!

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on August 31, 2016, 07:57:09 pm

I'd suggest Navy models over the pockets. .31 balls are hard to find, at least here. Also, if you get the Wells Fargo version of the pocket, you'll need to buy a bunch of other crap just to load it.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on August 31, 2016, 08:29:23 pm

If you've got the right tools, I imagine you can make your own though. I guess a standard hand loader just isn't going to do it though if your firing balls. I've got lead though, so that's a start.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on August 31, 2016, 08:34:25 pm

Besides cap-and-ball revolvers, another thing I'd like to try out is flintlock guns. That also seems really fun to me.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on August 31, 2016, 08:36:05 pm

Interesing. Menawhile envy ensues because my guns are mostly old hand-me-downs, and one that was a birthday present. First and foremost would be the 50-plus-years old .22 rimfire revolver, that I take to the range every so often. It's a J.C. Higgins, that's how you know it's old, cheap, and obscure. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on August 31, 2016, 09:41:34 pm

Actually, Higgins was just Sears & Roebuck's trade name for the guns they made in store. There was millions of them made, some right up here in the Cooey factory, some by Winchester, etc. etc. They're not super obscure and are great guns. Most of my chickens are killed with a Higgins .410.

Making shot for blackpowder stuff isn't too tough relative to handloading for anything else, and requires much less, if more specialized equipment. You need a bullet mold and a way to melt lead, and that's about it. If you wanna get fancy, you can make paper cartridges by measuring out your powder on to rolling papers, soaking the paper in potassium nitrate and rolling them up. That's what's in that little box in the big fancy wood case. You can make shot en-mass too if you just want something that kinda fits and goes pop, but you need a really tall tower and some other stuff to do it, which I won't go into unless you're really interested. You can also make the powder yourself with some basic chemistry and a coffee machine, though I don't recommend it, or with alot of patience and some every day stuff like piss and charcoal if you're oldschool.

Contrast to handloading cartridges, which needs powder measures, presses, dies, shell holders, a media tumbler or some other way to clean brass, a brass prep tool of some kind, brushes, lubes, cases, bullets, primers etc. etc.

The rest of the stuff you need to actually load the shot into the pistol is built right into the gun - the lever under the barrel is for pushing balls into the cylinder.

Flintlocks are a PITA which is why I have none these days. It's too wet up here. Also, if you're lefty and shooting a rifle, you have to contend with a small explosion right in front of your face when they go off.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on August 31, 2016, 09:52:25 pm

Yeah, I knew that was the case, but wasn't sure how common they were. Plus, not many people would recognize their label, I suspect.

And yeah, left-handed as well. I likely would be leery of a flintlock for that reason. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on August 31, 2016, 10:07:34 pm

Yeah, flintlocks are probably a good bit of trouble to own compared to everything else, but like, I just can't get over how cool the idea is in my head.

(http://www.militaryheritage.com/images/matchlockpistol1.JPG)

LIKE COME ON THAT'S PRETTY FUCKING COOL

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on August 31, 2016, 11:07:04 pm

You should get into pistols RD. They're all lefty friendly when you get down to it.

That's a german matchlock of some kind. I've only played with the rifles a bit. Like a flintlock, but even more of a PITA.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on August 31, 2016, 11:52:29 pm

Quote from: ApatheticExcuse on August 31, 2016, 11:07:04 pm

You should get into pistols RD. They're all lefty friendly when you get down to it.

That's a german matchlock of some kind. I've only played with the rifles a bit. Like a flintlock, but even more of a PITA.

Very tempting. Just I'm a cheapskate and thus haven't looked into buying a semi-auto. Or a flintlock, if that's what you meant. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on August 31, 2016, 11:53:43 pm

I can't get the idea that the pictured firearm is a wooden dildo with a gun at one end out of my head.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 01, 2016, 12:00:38 am

Lulz! Well, germans are known for mildly fucked up porn.

EDIT cause I missed RD's comment: A Jericho is cheap, takes CZ mags, and will last you forever. Otherwise, quite a few of the Filipino 1911s are decent for the cost. Chinese ones are good too, but I'm pretty sure they're still under import ban in the US.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on September 01, 2016, 12:54:59 am

It's a Military Heritage German Handgonne. An arquebus, just cut down so cavalry troopers could fire it with one hand. Late-ish 1500s, I'm pretty sure. A replica, of course.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 01, 2016, 01:22:04 am

Ah, a reiter pistol. Badass dudes, those.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 01, 2016, 03:27:25 pm

(http://i66.tinypic.com/34ya39y.jpg)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/mpt0j.jpg)

One of the other guys saw my slide kicking around and nicely cerakoted it - I was expecting a few weeks before I'd have time to get it done myself. So, that's coming along nicely.

The rest of my parts are probably around 3 weeks out, so I must unfortunately be patient. I ended up getting a pretty basic two piece full length guide rod coming - I don't subscribe to long being better than short, but figured what the hell. Also ordered both of these:

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2cfuulh.jpg)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/sym2ht.jpg)

Whichever looks better stays on this one, the other one goes on the next one.

And some of these:

(http://i63.tinypic.com/1z71s89.jpg)

which in retrospect are the wrong style. But I guess we'll see.

I've got a few more little internal parts and knicknacks coming that I'll talk about if they actually end up in and on the gun.

Besides that, I need to decide how to do the engraving. I talked with one of my buddies here, and he suggested a bright wood medallion, since lasers won't go deep enough into most metal to prevent rub issues. I might also just have the ruger logo gone over - buddy put a thin coat on this thing, so it still shows up a little bit, and wrecks my plan of putting something else where it was. That's still probably for the best, since thick cera looks ugly. I dunno :s. I was seriously planning to have three weeks to figure that shit out.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on September 01, 2016, 05:25:20 pm

What do you think is the biggest gun you've ever fired?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 01, 2016, 05:59:09 pm

Biggest diameter, not counting shotguns, would be a .585 Hubel express we built for a guy. I shot the barrelled action into the bullet trap without a stock, which might not count but was impressive, trust me. There's a video of two of the other guys doing it on youtube somewhere.

Biggest in terms of powder charge is the trusty .50 BMG.

In terms of "why the fuck would you ever want that" big guns I've fired, I think the 7.21 Lazzaroni Firebird takes the cake. It's not objectively large compared to most other stuff, but it's painfully overbore, and I'm not sure what a person does with a .284 diameter bullet going near 4000 feet per second.

Spoiler: Ok, that one is big enough to spoiler (hover to show)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1jIsQcNV8BI/UwRy6mgMxsI/AAAAAAAAIsU/1JFZQfeuxzo/s1600/A+Punt+Gun,+used+for+duck+hunting+but+were+banned+because+they+depleted+stocks+of+wild+fowl.jpg)

There's one of these hanging in the storefront. It's a little broken and I maybe knocked a few parts off it when I was hanging up a zodiac next to it when I first started here. It's a pipe dream, but I'd love to somehow get it running again and shoot it some day.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/the-punt-gun/81579954/

I mean come on, doesn't that look fun?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on September 02, 2016, 12:08:42 am

I saw that picture on QI. Fuckin punt guns. I think they were for vaporizing entire flocks of ducks.

I like the KS-23.
(http://weaponsystems.net/image/s-lightbox/n-KS-23-1/--/img/ws/fa_sg_ks23_o1.jpg)
Some of you probably already know, but "23" doesn't refer to gauge or caliber. It's the barrels measurement in millimeters. These shotguns are made from discarded 23MM anti-aircraft gun barrels. The civilian version is the TOZ-123 and all versions were made illegal for sale in the united states by the Clinton administration.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 02, 2016, 12:12:17 am

Punt guns were absolutely for killing ducks. You load them, then put them in your little boat (called a punt), and blasted the lake surface clean when they were landing or taking off.

I hadn't heard of those before. That's some punk rawk warhammer shit right there. Wiki says:

"The original KS-23 was developed jointly by NIISpetstekhniki (MVD) and TsNIITochmash in 1971, it was accepted for use by the Soviet police in 1985.[1] The gun has a barrel length of 510 mm and an overall length of 1040 mm. The KS-23 has an underbarrel tubular magazine capable of holding three rounds, with one in the chamber giving the gun a maximum round capacity of four. The gun's effective range is 150 m."

Note - don't commit crimes in Russia.


Looks like those are legal here. Maybe that should be the next project.....

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on September 02, 2016, 12:30:50 am

Oh, they are legal? My info was outdated!

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on September 02, 2016, 12:33:37 am

My envy only intensifies. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 02, 2016, 12:36:35 am

I don't live in the U.S.. I can see how you'd get that idea, but I live somewhere that most people do not associate with gun ownership, despite us having the highest per capita after the U.S., active warzones, and Switzerland.

Their controls are kinda the opposite of ours. Things get laxer the bigger the gun here, generally speaking.

As an example, I can't shoot grouse with a .22 pistol, but I can do it with a Carl Gustav recoiless rifle. I can't own a compact pistol, but I can drive a tank around as a commuter car. That gun I'm working on now can't be carried on the street, but I could walk around quite legally with an RPG-7. I can't take an AR-15 hunting, but I can bring a 20mm Lahti semi auto. It's a little odd.

EDIT: One just like it could be yours, RD. Not counting the labour, there's maybe $700 (US) worth of gun there, with maybe another $500 in parts, most of which is for the stupid sights.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on September 02, 2016, 01:34:02 am

The KS-23 is pretty hardcore. The solid steel slug that it can fire, originally made for destroying prisoner barricades in Russian prisons, can also destroy the engine blocks of cars at up to 100 meters, apparently.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on September 02, 2016, 02:41:46 am

Quote from: Forrest on September 02, 2016, 01:34:02 am

The KS-23 is pretty hardcore. The solid steel slug that it can fire, originally made for destroying prisoner barricades in Russian prisons, can also destroy the engine blocks of cars at up to 100 meters, apparently.

Not just any car, a military grade truck. The shot shells for it come in two types, "shrapnel-10" and "shrapnel-25." the number indicates the shots effective range in meters. That solid slug you mentioned is not just for destroying barricades, it is also called a "barricade." The rounds also come in "lilac (tear gas)," "Bird cherry (also tear gas)," and "Zvezda (flashbang)."
All from the wiki of course. I'd like to try firing one.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 02, 2016, 04:31:43 pm

I looked into getting one, or rather getting the 4 gauge civvy version. Doesn't seem like the gun is actually incredibly hard to get or overly expensive, it's the ammo that is impossible to find. No crazy steampunk shotgun for me.

Though this does give me an idea for the next project....

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on September 02, 2016, 04:34:30 pm

Personally, my dream shotgun would be a Saiga-12. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 02, 2016, 04:39:31 pm

That unfortunately falls under the list of things we're not allowed to have here. I'm making do with a Benelli M4 Super 90 until someone with some sense gets elected and changes that.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on September 02, 2016, 05:00:13 pm

I kinda figured that might be the case. ;w;

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on September 02, 2016, 05:28:21 pm

Isn't the Super 90 basically an M1014 without a stock?
(note: my knowledge of shotguns is 100% from Rainbow Six)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 02, 2016, 05:33:34 pm

They're the same gun, one's just a US military designation. There's a few stock options out there for them. Mine's got the adjustable setup on it, which benelli does particularly well. Kinda looks like this (the bottom one):

(http://www.targetsportscanada.com/sites/default/files/uploaded_products/s4342_0.jpg)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on September 02, 2016, 10:05:09 pm

If I get a shotgun, it'll probably just be a Chiappa 1887.

Yeah, I know they're gimmicky. Only real use it'd get besides the range would be pheasant shooting with my cousins, and I like lever actions.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 02, 2016, 11:22:10 pm

Hey, where's that badass story, brah?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on September 03, 2016, 01:31:45 am

Quote from: Forrest on September 02, 2016, 10:05:09 pm

Only real use it'd get besides the range would be pheasant shooting with my cousins, and I like lever actions.

I read that as "peasant shooting" at first...

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 03, 2016, 02:06:29 am

I don't hold enough titles to peasant shoot, personally.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on September 03, 2016, 04:12:13 pm

I am a lord after all, it is within my power to bestow titles. Lets see... Lord of the dance is taken, High Regent of High Times is free... How about "His Magisters Royal Gunsbraster?"

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 03, 2016, 08:21:20 pm

I could live with that. The peasants might not though.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on September 03, 2016, 11:34:45 pm

Quote from: ApatheticExcuse on September 03, 2016, 08:21:20 pm

I could live with that. The peasants might not though.

d; have fun.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 05, 2016, 07:31:29 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my5_vuZhUMM

It's not quite to scale, but the kid in me says fuck yeah.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on September 05, 2016, 07:50:41 pm

I'm not sure whether to be impressed or amused.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on September 05, 2016, 09:14:42 pm

Thats pretty fucking impressive.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 08, 2016, 04:31:20 pm

So, I was going to do a write up of my "in the meantime" project (giant steampunk shotgun got me thinking and I needed something to do while my 1911 parts are on order), but we just had an estate sale come through, and I managed to snag a few more "classical guns" from it.

While most of the pistols I really like are semis, I have an embarrassingly large old military bolt action collection. The first two here just got added to that.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/ogysn9.jpg)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/20hkl0x.jpg)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/jq2lqs.jpg)

I'm not too sure when it happened, but somewhere along the line I've become an oddball Mauser collector. This is probably the second neatest one I own (pics of the neatest some day) - it's a Swedish built .308 cavalry carbine, and as far as I can tell, it was built sometime in the 1960s - well after anyone should be making Mausers or still equipping cavalry. It's gonna come shoot a pig with me when we go back out there next month.

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2wh19wl.jpg)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/28ko4jq.jpg)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/2hcmb2c.jpg)

If you don't know what that is, then you need to get the fuck out of my thread. I'm kidding. Partially. That's a Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk 1 made in the Longbranch factory. I've already dropped it twice, but it was mint just a few hours ago when I bought it. I used to have a good Enfield collection, but they go for absurd prices up here and I sold them off to pay for my wedding (bad call, that one). This one is also really late production - 1950s, so it was cheap. Yay.

(http://i64.tinypic.com/dpaaew.jpg)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/1t0tj6.jpg)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2yjqwcl.jpg)

This one is a little weird, and not one I just got. It's a Swiss Vetterli in .41 Swiss. It's getting traded off to get the thing I need for the "in the meantime" project cannon-gun-thing. It's kinda neat looking I guess, but worthless and I'm not even sure why I have it. So away it goes.

And as a bonus since I didn't really put any "art" in the form of a project in this post:

(http://i64.tinypic.com/a818i.jpg)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/6humw7.jpg)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/v4qm0w.jpg)

This is probably the single most expensive pistol I've ever owned (let's not talk about rifles). It's a pre-War military Mauser C96, in 98% condition, with matching numbers, matching sheath, and matching holster/stock. I've been in this business for a while, and you NEVER see more than one or two guns like this one, in the shape it's in anyway, in your life. Unfortunately, this was sold to pay some debts to a buddy of mine, so I can't claim it as my pretty anymore, but he's never taken it out of storage here, so I can still snap pictures. When he goes broke, I plan on buying it back from him - he got a good deal on it (like, a couple thousand bucks off), so hopefully he'll return the favor to me.

Anyway, next gun related update will be something kinda different, and will be posted when the project is done - there's not much to look at until then. Just though you guys might like the old stuff.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on September 09, 2016, 02:21:25 am

Fun fact, Han Solo's blaster is a C96 with a bunch of garbage glued to it.
Also, when in automatic fire mode, they can lay down about 1000 rounds per minute.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 09, 2016, 02:27:25 am

Yeah, George Lucas wrecked alot of nice old German guns for those movies. Also some Stirling subguns, which kinda balances it out.

Oh! Salty! You should come join the Azmodal RP!

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on September 09, 2016, 04:14:04 am

This thread makes my mouth water, damn it.

Fuck California and it's gun laws.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on September 09, 2016, 06:34:27 am

The minute you mentioned you had a collection of old bolt action rifles I was going to ask if you had a Lee Enfield, I'd have been extremely dissapointed if you didn't own one of the finest rifles ever built*. Always been a dream of mine to own a few, they're just ludicrously difficult to obtain in Britain, oddly enough.

*Being British, I am legally required to say this, though I do agree with it.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on September 09, 2016, 12:10:26 pm

Hard for me to say which of the WWII-era classic rifles I'd drool about most. Honestly I've never cared much for bolt-actions, partly because left-handed and such, and also because lever-actions are more drool-worthy to me. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on September 09, 2016, 12:13:25 pm

Quote from: Random_Dragon on September 09, 2016, 12:10:26 pm

Hard for me to say which of the WWII-era classic rifles I'd drool about most. Honestly I've never cared much for bolt-actions, partly because left-handed and such, and also because lever-actions are more drool-worthy to me. :V

Yeah, it's all about levers for me, as I've sorta already stated with my preference for 1887s.

Marlins and Winchesters man <3

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on September 09, 2016, 12:17:47 pm

As tempting as an 1887 would be, in practical terms I'd enjoy a pump-action just as much, which would be be easier and cheaper to find. Not to mention you don't have the automatic vibe of "hey this guy probably only bought that because of Terminator 2" as a result. XP

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on September 09, 2016, 12:20:08 pm

Quote from: Random_Dragon on September 09, 2016, 12:17:47 pm

As tempting as an 1887 would be, in practical terms I'd enjoy a pump-action just as much, which would be be easier and cheaper to find. Not to mention you don't have the automatic vibe of "hey this guy probably only bought that because of Terminator 2" as a result. XP

Already touched on the gimmicky part too. It sucks, but I'd only own a gun for me and my enjoyment, and most of my friends know nothing about movies anyways xP

Pump-actions are nice and all still, though. And even if I opted for a more conventional shotgun I'd probably still get a nice Marlin carbine eventually.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 09, 2016, 03:10:40 pm

Quote from: Six on September 09, 2016, 06:34:27 am

The minute you mentioned you had a collection of old bolt action rifles I was going to ask if you had a Lee Enfield, I'd have been extremely dissapointed if you didn't own one of the finest rifles ever built*. Always been a dream of mine to own a few, they're just ludicrously difficult to obtain in Britain, oddly enough.

*Being British, I am legally required to say this, though I do agree with it.

I used to have the full set, less some of the really pricey ones like the T series. Now, just this one, but it's probably the most fun gun to shoot that I own. History and all. And I can't really disagree with you - the old .303s are probably one of the most historically significant designs in the world, which is pretty amazing when you consider that only a handful of countries issued them.

This might make you ache a little Forrest, but you can get Norc copies of the 87 here for around $400. The issue with the design is that they can't handle modern loads. Should check out these:

http://www.huntinggearguy.com/shotgun-reviews/adler-arms-a-110-review/

Which are well made and about $700 here, which probably means $50 there or whatever. Also, if it makes you feel better, you can own any of the long guns I've got, and most of the pistols I've posted here. Cali's got it much worse than we do in many ways though.

I used to have lots of levers. I got rid of the 336s and the 94s because I just had no need for them. I've still got a 1895SBL for killing dinosaurs, and an 1873 (the second coolest lever gun ever in my mind) is still on my to do list. Also this thing:

(http://i64.tinypic.com/23vdeuh.jpg)

Which has been sitting on the shelf here for too long. It's an 1876 in .50-95. The 76 is the coolest lever gun ever made, period.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 09, 2016, 09:06:28 pm

So, all my crap showed up today, which surprised me because shipping from the US usually takes a while longer.

Any opinions on the Tiger grips vs. the black ones? I was pretty set on the tigers, but they're a lot more orange than the picture indicated. Like, orange like an orange orange.

I might just modify them both as I'm planning to build a Commander length gun in the opposite twotone after this. But yes, thoughts?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on September 09, 2016, 10:02:34 pm

Now all you need is an Anzio 20mm and you'll have one of the most badass collections ever.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 10, 2016, 04:19:06 pm

Once opon a time I was speculating on a Lahti 20mm, but then I saw one blow up. There's a bit of a design flaw in them that allows them to sometimes try to chamber two rounds at once, which results in the first round being detonated (for lack of a better word) by the second round as it pushes into the primer. That, plus the cost of shooting one, kinda turned me off them.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on September 10, 2016, 04:37:42 pm

Double feed, Fun when it's an AR-15, !!FUN!! when it's something in 20mm.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 10, 2016, 04:52:01 pm

I am unfortunately unable to find my pictures, but yeah, it gets ugly quick. Buddy still has a face, but he was pretty red for a while.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on September 10, 2016, 05:06:54 pm

As I figured, yeah. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 13, 2016, 04:00:53 pm

So, my "in the meantime" project fell through. I got to thinking about what sorts of pressures naval bronze is probably rated to, especially when it's held together with a very simple hinge pin. I decided that there will be no crazy 12 gauge handcannon for me. Yet, anyway. The hunt for a sturdier basis for it is still going on.

That said, the 1911 is mostly done.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/vndso5.jpg)
(http://i66.tinypic.com/k49nqv.jpg)

I went with the Operators in orange - the black ones look nice, but I would have had to slim them down, so this was easier. Not 100% happy with how the fitting went - I think those rubber Grippers turned out better, but I don't think you can see any of the issues I have in the pictures.

One thing you might notice, if you've shot a gun with Operators on it before, is that this hurts your hands. Fuck, it hurts my hands just to look at. I don't think pictures really convey how stupid aggressive these grips are.

(http://i63.tinypic.com/14nnz9h.jpg)

Imagine grabbing a cheese grater and you might have the right idea. This will eat my hand to shoot; here's what it looks like after just picking it up:

(http://i64.tinypic.com/33v2koo.jpg)

Besides the obvious work, I've got the full length guide rod in (which as predicted, was probably a pointless waste of money), and I've clamped the safety in place because it was loose and I'm too lazy to fix it. It never gets used anyway. I also added in that little checkered piece on the front strap. It's a chinzy little bit of metal, but cost nothing and actually seems to hold up ok. It's also VERY sharp, just in case the gun wasn't cheese grater-y enough.

Engraving still has to happen, but I'm pretty happy with it otherwise. Pretty hard to recognize it as the gun in the first post.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on September 13, 2016, 05:48:24 pm

Yeesh. Who in their right mind orders cheese-grater grips. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 13, 2016, 05:55:23 pm

I was planning to put the black ones on, which are also nice but less likely to eat me, but wide and all. I'll just wear gloves if my hand starts to get bloody. And I'm never gonna drop the thing, that's for sure.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on September 18, 2016, 01:52:30 pm

And now your hands are probably julienne fries. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on September 19, 2016, 04:20:30 am

(http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2013/07/gun.jpg)
Does anybody around here remember this thing from a few years ago? I think it was called "the liberator" or something like that. It was some kind of 3D printed gun, and there was a modest clusterfuck about it.

[edit]
yeah, the liberator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IylGx-48TUI

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on September 19, 2016, 11:00:16 am

And people were convinced that by now we'd all be printing out 3D guns and killing their children with them.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on September 19, 2016, 12:01:30 pm

Now imagine how many more fatalities likely ensued from dumb fucks trying to make a pure, 100% printed gun, right down to the parts that really oughta be metal. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on September 19, 2016, 09:18:44 pm

AFAIK it's entirely possible to make a completely 100% 3D printed gun.
Surprisingly it doesn't really take a lot to make a functional, safe, gun. Sure you're containing and directing an explosion in a confined space but polymer is some pretty strong shit.

People have made functional firearms out of some pretty weak metal and even wood.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on September 19, 2016, 09:32:39 pm

You still need springs and firing pins and shit, but 3D printing does promise to render gun control in general pretty much 100% ineffective.

It's not hard to make a reasonably functional gun, but making a safe one is a bit more involved.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on October 12, 2016, 04:40:14 am

This thread died so have an M1903 Bullpup to have your eyes bleed over.
(https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vd3d3Lmd1bnZhbHVlc2JvYXJkLmNvbS9jb21wb25lbnRzL2NvbV9tb2pvL3dwLWNvbnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fkcy8yMDExLzEyL3Bob3RvLkpQRyJ9.6e0pqDYSg2UrfMPTYVxoQ2bgajI)

WHAT IS THIS.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on October 12, 2016, 05:22:28 am

Quote from: Mrnocamera on October 12, 2016, 04:40:14 am

This thread died so have an M1903 Bullpup to have your eyes bleed over.
(https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vd3d3Lmd1bnZhbHVlc2JvYXJkLmNvbS9jb21wb25lbnRzL2NvbV9tb2pvL3dwLWNvbnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fkcy8yMDExLzEyL3Bob3RvLkpQRyJ9.6e0pqDYSg2UrfMPTYVxoQ2bgajI)

WHAT IS THIS.

Oh.

OH.

OH NO.

OH GOD WHY.

KILL IT. STOP IT, SOMEBODY, PLEASE. MAKE IT GO AWAY.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on October 12, 2016, 06:23:43 am

A LOVELY ERGONOMIC GRIP.

EASILY ACCESSIBLE BOLT.

A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN, TRULY A DISPLAY PIECE.

PERFECT STOCK.

10/10 GUN

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on October 12, 2016, 07:40:20 am

Sweet zombie Jesus no. That poor Springfield. D:

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on October 12, 2016, 09:04:34 am

Quote from: Mrnocamera on October 12, 2016, 04:40:14 am

This thread died so have an M1903 Bullpup to have your eyes bleed over.
(https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vd3d3Lmd1bnZhbHVlc2JvYXJkLmNvbS9jb21wb25lbnRzL2NvbV9tb2pvL3dwLWNvbnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fkcy8yMDExLzEyL3Bob3RvLkpQRyJ9.6e0pqDYSg2UrfMPTYVxoQ2bgajI)

WHAT IS THIS.

I'd fuck that
Although, I'll fuck pretty much anything, my standards aren't exactly high.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on October 12, 2016, 10:40:00 am

"Hell, I'd still hit it." Or however the DNF quote goes.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on October 13, 2016, 01:49:01 am

Who mauled a perfectly good rifle to make that? I can't tell if the stock is original, or if maybe somebody took everything but the stock from a small rifle and attached it to the stock for a larger rifle. Trying to compare it to nearby objects only makes the barrel/receiver/action assembly look smaller. Hell I went to look it up and found lots of images and pages showing and talking about perfectly normal looking rifles. Who did this thing? Who mutilated a fine example of rifle craftsmanship to make this?

EDIT:
Found this.

Spoiler (hover to show)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/joel_black/03bps.jpg)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on October 13, 2016, 11:29:21 am

I am truely puzzled at why you'd make it so bulky. Gotta be a mile of trigger linkage in that thing somewhere.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on October 13, 2016, 01:59:52 pm

I'd assume there's some weird situation in which just holding that ugly thing is only feasible with it so bulky. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on October 13, 2016, 02:04:17 pm

Eh, I don't have a picture, but I converted a Savage 111 to bullpup and I can assure you that bulk is not required.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on October 13, 2016, 02:08:46 pm

Clearly needs moar sexy P90s.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on October 13, 2016, 04:08:33 pm

I'd sell my soul for a P90

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on October 13, 2016, 04:28:01 pm

The pro-90 is perfect

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on October 13, 2016, 05:15:35 pm

Even if the 5.7mm cartridge is a derpy little thing, the gun itself is sexy. o3o

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on October 13, 2016, 08:36:55 pm

Five-seven only really sucks in civilian loads, where they chop a whole thousand FPS off the potential. Well, ok, it sucks as a "sporting cartridge" in general since the energy it carries out of the P90 (much higher than from the FiveseveN pistol) is really not enough to reliably stop anything that won't instinctively fall down when shot (see: people).

That said, if you chop 1000FPS off a 9mm, you end up with a paintball gun shooting ball bearings, and if you chop 1000FPS off the venerable .45 ACP, the bullet somehow has magical negative velocity and will come out the wrong end of the gun or something.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on October 14, 2016, 12:26:27 am

Now we just need to find out what happens if you cut 1000FPS off .22 CB or something

I'm guessing it'd create a mini black hole

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on October 14, 2016, 09:12:06 am

If you're losing that many FPS, you need to put a better graphics card in your gun.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on October 15, 2016, 03:30:03 pm

How are you going to fight off the motorcycle mutants when your gun doesn't have the FPS to keep you from lagging all over the place. One moment you're sighting up a bandit, next moment he's juttering about in your scope.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 08, 2016, 11:50:36 pm

Needs moar BAR.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on November 09, 2016, 12:30:08 am

Here you go

Spoiler (hover to show)

(http://civilblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/ribbed-tor-steel-bars-Advantages.jpg)

Spoiler (hover to show)

(http://esq.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/06/54d3cdbba4f40_-_esq-01-bar-lgn.jpg)

Spoiler (hover to show)

(http://w.mawebcenters.com/static/ecommerce/20/20981/media/catalog/category/file.jpg)

Spoiler (hover to show)

(https://www.moneymetals.com/img/gold-price-per-gram.jpg)

Spoiler (hover to show)

(http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/P1310604-900x601.jpg)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 09, 2016, 01:48:01 am

The fact you actually did include an image of the Browning Automatic Rifle makes me more amused at having actually checked each spoiler. If it had been the unrelated "Browning BAR" I would've been saddragon.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 14, 2016, 02:19:30 pm

Pfffft, BARs.

Bren gun for the win.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 14, 2016, 08:24:27 pm

Both are sexy though. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on November 15, 2016, 03:46:07 am

Ah, good old Bren guns, the gun that was too accurate.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on November 15, 2016, 11:49:34 am

Spoiler: shooty bang guns (hover to show)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/229756388258217984/248126054638551041/1380914357078.jpg)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 15, 2016, 11:53:51 am

Quote from: Six on November 15, 2016, 03:46:07 am

Ah, good old Bren guns, the gun that was too accurate.

My reference senses are tingling, and it involves the derpiness of comparing a British LMG to a German MMG.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 15, 2016, 12:11:03 pm

Kinda semantics here, but I'd consider the Bren to be an automatic rifle, like the BAR, not an MG*.

The German guns are GPMGs though, fo' sho.


*A distinction that I personally make based on the era and box mags. See the Lewis gun for an LMG, and the 1919 for a MMG.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on November 15, 2016, 01:57:05 pm

The Bren is an automatic rifle, just based upon the way it operates and performs, but IIRC it was originally intended to be a support weapon, it just didn't quite perform as a support weapon should have.

Because we all know it's absolute, undisputed, fact that you can hit a man between the eyes at 12 miles with a Bren gun without fail and no other weapon ever invented can even hope to match it.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 15, 2016, 02:02:29 pm

Totally indisputed. It singlehandedly won the war and also killed the last buffalo, unicorn, and several lesser known species of whales.

Had the Aussies had it during the Ostrich War, they totally would have won. But no, *Maxim guns*.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 15, 2016, 03:16:26 pm

True. Automatic rifle and/or LMG, MMG and/or GPMG. Much like how the M249 has manuals for use of it both as an automatic rifle and as an LMG, if I recall.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on November 15, 2016, 03:36:17 pm

(http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Hans-Stopler-Revolver-660x300-660x300.png)
discuss.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 15, 2016, 03:39:24 pm

Image not working on my end. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 15, 2016, 03:41:06 pm

That's pretty, right there.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Wheel-Son on November 15, 2016, 05:05:45 pm

it has a club grip, so if you ran out of shots you can start beating your foe with the gun itself.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on November 15, 2016, 05:20:06 pm

Seen it before. One of the first revolving firearms, if not the first. Sometime around the late 1500s, manually turned by hand, flintlock mechanism. Italian, if I remember correctly.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 15, 2016, 05:21:20 pm

I'd guess german, from the styling. Little out of my usual area though.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 15, 2016, 06:15:56 pm

And now that I'm on wifi that doesn't hate wherever that image is hosted, I can indeed confirm it is a sexy gun.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on November 15, 2016, 10:40:22 pm

*in redneck voice* but we're can I mount mah scope?!

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on November 16, 2016, 01:20:34 am

What do we (american or not) think of this arising issue in the US of the united states rapidly aging military equipment? My stepfather used to be the quartermaster of an armory when he was still in active service (the marines) and showed me his 1911, which he pieced together with the best salvaged parts he could recover from 1911s that had been in use since WW2. Is a 1911 supposed to rattle like his does? Fuck no but from what he says, when he was servicing the armory, most of the 1911s he had were like that. Worn out WW2 relics that had been kept around because it would have been more costly to replace them. I believe they have replaced them by now, but those replacements are starting to wear out and/or are seriously under powered.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 16, 2016, 02:13:50 am

I thought the USMC switched to a fancier .45 ACP pistol because they refused to get M9s like the Army uses? :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 16, 2016, 02:50:48 am

Quote from: saltmummy626 on November 16, 2016, 01:20:34 am

What do we (american or not) think of this arising issue in the US of the united states rapidly aging military equipment? My stepfather used to be the quartermaster of an armory when he was still in active service (the marines) and showed me his 1911, which he pieced together with the best salvaged parts he could recover from 1911s that had been in use since WW2. Is a 1911 supposed to rattle like his does? Fuck no but from what he says, when he was servicing the armory, most of the 1911s he had were like that. Worn out WW2 relics that had been kept around because it would have been more costly to replace them. I believe they have replaced them by now, but those replacements are starting to wear out and/or are seriously under powered.

Well, controversial opinion time.

The 1911 as a combat pistol is totally obsolete. As a cartridge, the .45 has like 1 advantage over something like a 9mm - it still works well while subsonic (being designed to run at around 800-900 fps originally). That advantage is completely lost when you consider that you generally only get 7 of them - the stopping power vs. 9mm debate is kind of irrelevant when you consider that just about any modern service pistol will let you shoot a guy at least 10 times more than you can with the 1911. That's also ignoring the fact that 9mm +P+ is totally capable of matching .45 in terms of energy.

Besides that, you're honestly not gaining much over an even older design - a double action revolver, besides a more robust pistol - the whole "revolvers are more reliable" thing is bullshit, since autoloaders don't break when you drop them.

As a gun itself, there's really only one truly impressive thing about the 1911 when compared to some of it's descendants. That is that generally, most of them out there will work, shoot well, and aren't picky with how much you fuck with them. That doesn't sound like much until you consider that the only company that has diagrams for them is Colt, and that literally every single one of the million other clones out there has been reverse engineered from that. Besides, there's a billion aftermarket parts available for them, many of which are drop ins.

Contrast this with say, a Glock. Glocks don't have a reputation as being finicky, unlike the 1911, and are supposed to just work. The thing is that some times they don't. Look at when the gen4 came out - Glock spent literally two years trying to get them to function, and they didn't even change anything super important. In Glock terms, two years means something like 6,000,000,000 pistols of the production line, which is pretty irrelevant in terms of overall production numbers. Anyway, now imagine that everyone from the Chinese to old-school craftsman began churning out Glock clones and parts. I'm betting none of them would work at all.

Besides that, it really doesn't do anything that something more modern won't do better, even in a civilian sense. You don't need a target pistol for service, and you don't need something that will work if you fuck with it, since you're likely never going to fire it in anger and can generally count on being issued something of fairly standard quality.

So, I think you got it right. The Marines didn't keep them because they're amazing. They kept them because the Navy doesn't care about land operations and doesn't give them much funding.

BTW, just about every issue 1911 I've handled, even a mint one, is loose as hell. Helps them work no matter what gets in them.

All that said, your country could benefit from getting out of interventionism for a decade or so, and your defense budget exceeds the GDP of like half the nations in the world. Compared to even other world powers, your army is so far ahead of the rest of us in terms of tech that even "aged, outdated stuff" is laughably far in front of us. You could probably stand to cut down a bit.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 23, 2016, 03:53:03 am

So, here's some gun derp for you.

I have a .22 LR semi-auto rifle. It came with a standard 10-round magazine. Few years ago I went looking for a second magazine just in case. Local stores never had the 10-rounder, so I bought a 25-round mag. It's a butt-ugly monster of a magazine mocked up to resemble a STANAG magazine, and obviously meant for the version of my rifle actually mocked up to resemble an AR-15, not the standard one.

So of course it feeds horribly and is a general piece of shit. So this evening I took it apart to examine it, and noticed something. In addition to the standard added crap, it had a complete 3 out of 4 parts making up one of the standard magazines. All it needs is a floorplate.

So lacking a spare floorplate, I found I do have small amounts of half-decent sheet metal, tin snips, a hammer, a rubber mallet, standard pliers, and needlenose pliers. After one failed attempt to get a piece roughly to shape (too smol), I just left the second piece as a slightly oversize rectangle, then forced it to hug the bottom of the magazine as best as my crude tools allow.

Got it to the point where there's no play in the fitting when fiddled with, but fucked if I know if it'll even stay on with the spring under 10 cartridges of tension, let alone stand up to any handling. o3o

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on November 25, 2016, 05:20:56 pm

(http://weaponsman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Sokolovsky-Automaster-crude-magazine.jpg)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 25, 2016, 05:47:26 pm

Hmm. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 25, 2016, 05:54:28 pm

Ah, the screwless Sokolovsky - doing what the germans were doing 100 years later and for more money.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on November 26, 2016, 12:10:13 am

It looks like shit. I guess it's functional but...

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on November 26, 2016, 04:03:45 am

It satisfies the most important requirement of "is a gun".

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 26, 2016, 04:15:11 am

I am saddragon that my jury-rigged magazine floorplate idea gets no mockery nor conjecture on if it'll work. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on November 26, 2016, 04:36:41 am

(http://candrsenal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Austrian-Steyr-Hahn-M1912-right.jpg)
Have this also.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on November 26, 2016, 04:09:29 pm

Quote from: Random_Dragon on November 26, 2016, 04:15:11 am

I am saddragon that my jury-rigged magazine floorplate idea gets no mockery nor conjecture on if it'll work. :V

Well we wont know if it's dumb or not until you test it out

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 26, 2016, 05:25:48 pm

The Austrians make.. interesting... guns.

Quote from: Six on November 26, 2016, 04:09:29 pm

Quote from: Random_Dragon on November 26, 2016, 04:15:11 am

I am saddragon that my jury-rigged magazine floorplate idea gets no mockery nor conjecture on if it'll work. :V

Well we wont know if it's dumb or not until you test it out

I'm guessing you have a Mossberg based on the description (ok, so it's a total guess). Having no idea whatsoever as to what sort of fabricating skills you have, I can't really speak to if your fix will work. Given how simple the factory mags are, and that you're a clever dragon, you should be able to make it work at least "ok".

The only place I can forsee a ton of trouble is in re-sizing the spring. The pressure required to reliably feed anything relying on blowback is a bit of a fixed commodity. Too little pressure and it won't feed. Too much pressure and it will cause the action to bind. Err on the side of "way too much", as it's only a 25 round spring.

Worse come to worse, I could probably walk you through how to make a working 5 round mag out of it.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on November 26, 2016, 05:38:17 pm

I actually very much enjoy the look of Austrian guns.

Steyr-Hahn and Roth-Steyr for life, m9.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 26, 2016, 05:45:05 pm

The problem with the M9 is the sights. They're good for people popping, but not hitting small things.

Not as bad as some of the shit H&K has put on guns though.

Somewhat related, what's wrong with this picture:

(http://ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Swat-backwards-site.jpg)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 26, 2016, 05:49:01 pm

Quote from: Six on November 26, 2016, 04:09:29 pm

I'm guessing you have a Mossberg based on the description (ok, so it's a total guess). Having no idea whatsoever as to what sort of fabricating skills you have, I can't really speak to if your fix will work. Given how simple the factory mags are, and that you're a clever dragon, you should be able to make it work at least "ok".

The only place I can forsee a ton of trouble is in re-sizing the spring. The pressure required to reliably feed anything relying on blowback is a bit of a fixed commodity. Too little pressure and it won't feed. Too much pressure and it will cause the action to bind. Err on the side of "way too much", as it's only a 25 round spring.

Worse come to worse, I could probably walk you through how to make a working 5 round mag out of it.

...yep, a Mossberg 702. The spring is, well...actually two springs separated by a little plastic guide thing, and both seem the same general dimensions as expected of a 10-round magazine.

well question is whether sheet metal malleable enough to bend in place with various hand tools will stay on if the spring is compressed. I keep forgetting I should at least put rounds in the mag to test it.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: RedVulnus on November 26, 2016, 05:59:32 pm

I very nearly modified someone's post because I was trying to quote it and now I've forgotten who it was. Mod woes, almost like Six nearly deleting LMP a bunch.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 26, 2016, 06:00:00 pm

And of course, I have neither in the building to look at right now.

If I recall though, the factory 702 mag (good guess, eh?) has it's baseplate held in place by a roll in the mag body itself, like a savage 64 mag. That said, the smarter way to do this is to probably flair the bottom of the body (if you can do this - there's a fine line between enough flair and effectively breaking the thing or now having a 9 round mag) , oversize your new plate, then fold and pinch the edges on. for good measure, divot the front and back.

It should stay on just fine. They aren't exactly high quality mags and the spring pressure is pretty low. All that said, fixing mags is something myself and the other people here never touch, as it's usually more fucking around than it's worth. So take that how you want.

Alternatively, you could use some of your handy sheet metal to make a less-trash feeling 715T out of the gun. That would be lulz.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 26, 2016, 06:15:50 pm

Huehuehue. Hmm, not sure how well that'd work given the sort of tools I have.

And now I'm gonna eat whoever PM'd be a warning to stop being a heretic and subverting the word filter when talking about disliked devs. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 26, 2016, 06:37:29 pm

Subverting a word filter is typically a bannable offense on most forums.

*chuckle*

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: RedVulnus on November 26, 2016, 06:45:37 pm

Quote from: ApatheticExcuse on November 26, 2016, 06:37:29 pm

Subverting a word filter is typically a bannable offense on most forums.

*chuckle*

but the word filters we have here are supposed to just be jokes so...

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 26, 2016, 06:54:26 pm

;w;

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on November 26, 2016, 07:14:40 pm

Quote from: RedVulnus on November 26, 2016, 05:59:32 pm

I very nearly modified someone's post because I was trying to quote it and now I've forgotten who it was. Mod woes, almost like Six nearly deleting LMP a bunch.

I've almost accidentally deleted posts quite a few times too

Quote from: RedVulnus on November 26, 2016, 06:45:37 pm

Quote from: ApatheticExcuse on November 26, 2016, 06:37:29 pm

Subverting a word filter is typically a bannable offense on most forums.

*chuckle*

but the word filters we have here are supposed to just be jokes so...

They're sort of a joke, but also sort of there to diffuse the salt from way back, subverting them does defeat the point of them.
Also I accidentally pressed modify instead of quote here, the irony.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 26, 2016, 07:24:02 pm

Quote from: Six on November 26, 2016, 07:14:40 pm

They're sort of a joke, but also sort of there to diffuse the salt from way back, subverting them does defeat the point of them.
Also I accidentally pressed modify instead of quote here, the irony.

Fiiine. ;w;

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 26, 2016, 07:51:09 pm

I thought it was obvious I was kidding.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on November 26, 2016, 09:13:19 pm

Quote from: ApatheticExcuse on November 26, 2016, 05:45:05 pm

Somewhat related, what's wrong with this picture:
(http://ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Swat-backwards-site.jpg)

They aren't wearing helmets on their bright, out-of-place-among-all-these-dull-colors, heads? Also, the appear to be aiming through the cab of their vehicle? Oh and that guy is holding his shotgun like a pistol. and his finger is on the trigger instead of above it. (you don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire.) Also, I don't know the circumstances, but they don't appear to be practicing "escalation of force." If these are police officers, then another thing that is wrong is "why are they armed with military hardware they aren't trained to use?" Also that guys dick is out. made you look.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on November 26, 2016, 09:45:23 pm

You made me look, and then I saw the real out of place third guy.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on November 26, 2016, 10:07:32 pm

Quote from: saltmummy626 on November 26, 2016, 09:13:19 pm

"...why are they armed with military hardware they aren't trained to use?..."

'Murica, fuck yeah!!!

Quote from: Random_Dragon on November 26, 2016, 09:45:23 pm

You made me look, and then I saw the real out of place third guy.

That made me laugh more than it should.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on November 30, 2016, 02:11:45 pm

Quote from: saltmummy626 on November 26, 2016, 09:13:19 pm

If these are police officers, then another thing that is wrong is "why are they armed with military hardware they aren't trained to use?"[/size]

That's pretty close. His sight is on backwards

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 14, 2016, 07:16:43 pm

I was bored so I did another thing. I shall call you Blingarev. Off to the engraver you go for cyrillic nonesense

(http://i.imgur.com/fON8314.jpg)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on December 14, 2016, 11:58:33 pm

Not sure if cute or heresy.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on December 15, 2016, 05:37:39 am

Neither, it is Blingarev, the most stylish of Mother Russia's firearms.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on December 15, 2016, 06:49:04 am

I can get behind the idea of fancy Russian sidearms.

Makarovs and Nagants are pretty sexy too. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on December 15, 2016, 11:47:06 am

Nagant gets sexiness points simply because no else I know of has done a suppressor-compatible revolver.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 15, 2016, 12:32:19 pm

The Russians have in more recent times, but the Nagant is the only one that actually makes sense, given that there weren't quality semi-automatics at the time.

Godawful little gun to shoot though.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on December 15, 2016, 06:17:27 pm

Revolvers still make sense, even in situations where a suppressor would be useful, their reliability is still far greater than any semi-automatic when in harsh conditions.

Covert KGB-but-not-really-KGB-because-Putin operations in a desert environment for example.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 15, 2016, 06:28:19 pm

That's a myth. Revolvers are far easier to break than semi-autos, and unless you buy garbage guns, semi-autos work just as well.

But in context, the extra work and drawbacks to making a suppressible revolver mean they don't make sense for that purpose relative to a semi.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on December 15, 2016, 06:31:40 pm

In my experience, the main draw of revolvers is that semi-autos get powder buildup EVERYWHERE. Which is only an issue if you're like me and prefer cleaning your guns after any trip to the range.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 15, 2016, 06:35:12 pm

I dunno. Powder near the chamber & muzzle vs. powder literally everywhere including inside the lockwork. Also, being able to properly take the gun apart for cleaning without a screwdriver is kind of a plus.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on December 15, 2016, 06:50:11 pm

Maybe. Odd though, with my revolver I haven't had that much of an issue. Mainly just in and around the cylinder gap and chambers, in contrast to my semi-auto getting powder in every nook and cranny of the receiver, bolt, magazine well, the magazine follower, over a good portion of the stock... :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 15, 2016, 07:05:09 pm

Take off the inspection plate and look in there.

And I'm guessing you're meaning a rifle. Semi pistols are far simpler, and .22s are inheriently pretty filthy.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on December 15, 2016, 07:14:55 pm

Hmm. :V

And yeah, I have a .22 revolver and a .22 rifle.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on December 15, 2016, 09:57:31 pm

Nagants are awful to shoot. And the cartridge is underpowered and most of the little features that Leon Nagant thought up to make it better weren't really all that important for a military sidearm. Honestly, they should've stuck with the S&W Model 3, .44 Russian's pretty alright when it comes to power, and inherently accurate, even if the Nagant's gas seal increases accuracy or whatever it was for.
(OH RIGHT AND I FORGOT, FUCK THE LOADING. LIKE, THIS THING WAS MADE FOR CAVALRY. HOW WERE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO THAT ON THE FIELD?)

BUT HEY I THINK THEY LOOK NICE IN AN UGLY COOL WAY

the tokarev's sexy and it works, though

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 15, 2016, 11:03:52 pm

The Nagant is stronger (though yeah, that's not really needed), and far cheaper to make. The latter is why only cavalry got the 3. I'm fairly sure S&W ran into the same problems as Remington in that the russians couldn't always pay them, too. Nagants are a pain in the ass to load when you're standing still on solid ground.

It's one of the few guns I've owned and gotten rid of with absolutely no regrets.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on December 16, 2016, 06:09:48 am

Quote from: ApatheticSiegeLion on December 15, 2016, 11:03:52 pm

It's one of the few guns I've owned and gotten rid of with absolutely no regrets.

You've never owned a Zip Gun then

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on December 16, 2016, 06:30:40 am

Quote from: Six on December 16, 2016, 06:09:48 am

Quote from: ApatheticSiegeLion on December 15, 2016, 11:03:52 pm

It's one of the few guns I've owned and gotten rid of with absolutely no regrets.

You've never owned a Zip Gun then

Hey now, there're some pretty sexy zip guns out there, man.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on December 16, 2016, 04:39:37 pm

Quote from: Forrest on December 16, 2016, 06:30:40 am

Quote from: Six on December 16, 2016, 06:09:48 am

Quote from: ApatheticSiegeLion on December 15, 2016, 11:03:52 pm

It's one of the few guns I've owned and gotten rid of with absolutely no regrets.

You've never owned a Zip Gun then

Hey now, there're some pretty sexy zip guns out there, man.

I'm talking about this fucking abomination.
(http://14544-presscdn-0-64.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/zip-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 16, 2016, 07:29:51 pm

3D printer compatible I'm guessing?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on December 17, 2016, 07:50:02 am

I imagine you probably could 3d print one that would work just as well as the actual commercial product, which is not at all.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: RedVulnus on December 17, 2016, 12:54:06 pm

Quote from: Six on December 17, 2016, 07:50:02 am

I imagine you probably could 3d print one that would work just as well as the actual commercial product, which is not at all.

you can(in the US) 3d print all but one part of a gun, and someone has made a 3d printed AR that has cycled six hundred rounds so 3d printed guns are actually viable. All of this according to a documentary I can't seem to find on youtube at the moment though so grain of salt.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on December 17, 2016, 01:16:29 pm

Well you can 3D print a gun anywhere, it's just not legal in a lot of places. 3D printed guns do work though but not when you're printing a piece of shit that never worked in the first place.
I have a hatred for Zip Guns because they got all hyped and then were a massive letdown.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on December 17, 2016, 01:28:07 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtiQRhqs19M

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on December 20, 2016, 04:09:48 am

Why doesn't your zip gun look like a pipe with a wrench duct taped to it? Also where are the rubber bands and the nail? Why doesn't it looks like this?

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(http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/crude-1.jpg)

or this

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(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTbhw8YDYdYMfJxDTDUVmTTv9ZofQSHVxQGDG3_O5epR3GAZ2drUw)

or maybe this

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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/B_mynKmTJfs/maxresdefault.jpg)

And yes, those are all guns.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on December 20, 2016, 09:10:15 am

Because someone named it after junk guns, almost like they knew it'd be a piece of junk.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 20, 2016, 02:00:10 pm

The top one looks like death waiting to happen.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on December 20, 2016, 02:18:45 pm

Quote from: ApatheticSiegeLion on December 20, 2016, 02:00:10 pm

The top one looks like death waiting to happen.

Voted #2 on the the yearly "Top 10 Most Likely To Blow Up In Your Hand" contest in Post-Apoc Guns Monthly. o3o

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Forrest on December 20, 2016, 09:57:05 pm

YOU PEOPLE HAVE AWAKENED THE BEAST THAT IS MY LOVE OF IMPROVISED SHITTY FIREARMS

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(https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/zipguns428886197-improguns-34.jpg?w=640)

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(https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/homemaderevolver9784578.jpg)

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(https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/improvised410shotgunbrazil-improguns.jpg)

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(https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/zipgunseizedinhungary-improguns.jpg)

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(https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/homemaderevolverbrazilstriker-improguns.jpg)

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(https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/pepperboxzipgun2.jpg)

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(https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/homemadegunsnigeria.jpg?w=640)

Pretty interesting. Nigerian cattle rustler guns, with multiple single-shot pistols, a crude revolver, and a freakin' percussion muzzleloader.

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(https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/homemadefirearmafrica-improguns.jpg?w=640)

My all-time-favorite when it comes to uniqueness. Confiscated from an African rhino poacher. It's a huge, weird, unwieldy revolver made from sheet metal, with a suppressor to boot.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 21, 2016, 06:32:21 pm

Most of those look actually reasonably functional.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on December 22, 2016, 10:09:28 am

Yeah those first few look fine.

The second one I'd probably actually trust.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 24, 2016, 07:21:35 pm

Apparently this is pretty common in Asia (according to Google while I was looking for the below link), and this Japanese dude's actually made some pretty legit looking stuff:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/09/03/japanese-man-arrested-building-homemade-guns/

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on December 31, 2016, 01:03:35 am

Got myself a new Mossberg Maverick 88 Home defrender 12 guage shotgun. Not the best out there but it is a shotgun!

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on December 31, 2016, 11:40:52 am

Quote from: Noctifer-De-Mortem on December 31, 2016, 01:03:35 am

but it is a shotgun!

Isn't that the important part?

Actually I've seen mavericks survive some horrific abuse. You should totally start shooting dumb shit out of it.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 31, 2016, 11:44:52 am

Quote from: Six on December 31, 2016, 11:40:52 am

Quote from: Noctifer-De-Mortem on December 31, 2016, 01:03:35 am

but it is a shotgun!

Isn't that the important part?

Actually I've seen mavericks survive some horrific abuse. You should totally start shooting dumb shit out of it.

^^ They aren't spectacular guns, but a pump shotgun is a pump shotgun, really. Shoot the shit out of it, as Six says.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on December 31, 2016, 12:16:22 pm

Yes. Find exotic metals that no one uses for anything sane, make a slug out of it.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on December 31, 2016, 01:47:39 pm

Depleted uranium slugs!!!

I don't forsee myself reloading anytime soon but I will fire whaever commercial ammo fits in the chamber.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on December 31, 2016, 03:06:59 pm

I thinking more like gallium, even if it's a tad underwhelming. o3o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veKr6NRRXOY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veKr6NRRXOY)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on December 31, 2016, 03:21:58 pm

But then it will melt after prolong firing.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on December 31, 2016, 03:48:39 pm

Still less of a clusterfuck than a mercury slug. o3o

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on December 31, 2016, 04:19:15 pm

I've seen some neat stuff done with a sodium-potassium liquid filled .45, but it's more visually impressive than actually dangerous.

The problem with doing stuff like the guys in these videos do is that the bullet design becomes garbage once you start drilling holes it it or melting out the cores.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 01, 2017, 08:20:52 pm

So my mossberg had a wooden skewer in the magazine tube that made it so that it could only had two shells at a time instead of five...why? idk. Had to learn to disassemble the damn thing (would had to do so eventually anyway) just to learn after I had done so that the magazine tube is glued in...great. However, this seems to be a common issue so I saw a tutorial where if you just unscrew the magazine cap to take of the barrel and tip the gun downwards the wooden skewer comes out, so now I can load my gun as it was intended.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Wheel-Son on January 01, 2017, 08:38:24 pm

because it's the legal limit, i'm guessing.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 01, 2017, 08:49:23 pm

Might be that they get shipped all over the country and they do that for states like commiefornia california.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on January 01, 2017, 08:53:00 pm

"Ah yes, if we tell you you can't load two extra shells we'll stop you from doing it when you're shooting up a school, like all gun owners eventually do"

Magazine limits are the dumbest shit and it takes a special kind of stupid to think a criminal is going to follow that law.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 01, 2017, 08:56:04 pm

Quote from: Six on January 01, 2017, 08:53:00 pm

"Ah yes, if we tell you you can't load two extra shells we'll stop you from doing it when you're shooting up a school, like all gun owners eventually do"

Magazine limits are the dumbest shit and it takes a special kind of stupid to think a criminal is going to follow that law.

Agreed
Not as dumb as the law that prohibits wearing a bullet-proof vest during a crime but still dumb.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 01, 2017, 08:57:07 pm

Actully, I'm fairly certain that the two shells limit is for bird hunting, not gun control reasons.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: RedVulnus on January 01, 2017, 08:58:21 pm

Quote from: Six on January 01, 2017, 08:53:00 pm

"Ah yes, if we tell you you can't load two extra shells we'll stop you from doing it when you're shooting up a school, like all gun owners eventually do"

Magazine limits are the dumbest shit and it takes a special kind of stupid to think a criminal is going to follow that law.

Yeah, and I used to think magazine limits would be a good thing. I now know they aren't, all you need is a 3d printer and a bit of know how and you can not only build a magazine, but an entire gun. I still don't think military hardware should be available to civilians but I've learned a lot about guns, gun owners, and how these things would actually work now that I'm not a stupid sixteen or so year old.

EDITED: Acidently forgot part of a sentence.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 01, 2017, 09:02:56 pm

Hey, sometimes smol mag is a good thing. Case in point, 25-round mags for the Mossberg 702 plinkster.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 01, 2017, 09:09:27 pm

Quote from: Chaosvolt on January 01, 2017, 08:57:07 pm

Actully, I'm fairly certain that the two shells limit is for bird hunting, not gun control reasons.

How so?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 01, 2017, 09:14:02 pm

"All Mossberg models including the 835, 535, 500, 505 and 590 (except for Special-Purpose and Law Enforcement models) are shipped with a wooden dowel with two rubber O-rings, also called a duck plug, located in the tube magazine. This is to comply with U.S. migratory bird laws. This dowel reduces and regulates the number of shells that can be loaded in the magazine to 2."

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 01, 2017, 09:22:00 pm

So if I wanna go bird hunting, I have to put it back in?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 01, 2017, 09:26:17 pm

Possibly, I'm not sure how state laws affect that law. I assume it's because the norm for bird hunting is a double-barrel shotgun.

You'd have to be kinda dumb to hunt burds with a pump-action though. Either that, or very confident that you only need one shot.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 01, 2017, 09:30:07 pm

Quote from: Chaosvolt on January 01, 2017, 09:26:17 pm

Possibly, I'm not sure how state laws affect that law. I assume it's because the norm for bird hunting is a double-barrel shotgun.

You'd have to be kinda dumb to hunt burds with a pump-action though. Either that, or very confident that you only need one shot.

Do not underestimate the confidence of the stupid!

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on January 01, 2017, 10:32:10 pm

It's indeed for bird hunting. And pumps are far superior for that because you can have a total of three at that point, as well as a much less expensive gun. Only disadvantage is a single choke, but I get the idea few people really understand how those work anyway.

Birds here generally being waterfowl. Might differ where you are, but here you can take as many rounds to chase grouse as you want.

It's actually good that tube is glued as the threads are easy to fuck (as is the actual mag tube) if you don't know what you're doing. What I find is much more frustrating is the way the foreend is attached. You have to replace the whole thing with one from a 500 just to get a flashlight rail on there.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 01, 2017, 10:38:56 pm

One might fuck it up trying to remove the mag tupe using pliers because if the glue though, and I agree with it being a pain in the ass to accessories.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 02, 2017, 12:22:26 am

Quote from: ApatheticSiegeLion on January 01, 2017, 10:32:10 pm

It's indeed for bird hunting. And pumps are far superior for that because you can have a total of three at that point, as well as a much less expensive gun. Only disadvantage is a single choke, but I get the idea few people really understand how those work anyway.

I would be more concerned with getting a follow-up shot if you fuck up the first one. Most double-barrels are quicker to follow up with than a pump-action. And if you can't get even one clean hit on a bird that's flying away with two shots, you really don't deserve a third. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on January 02, 2017, 03:25:37 am

Quote from: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 01, 2017, 10:38:56 pm

One might fuck it up trying to remove the mag tupe using pliers because if the glue though, and I agree with it being a pain in the ass to accessories.

You shouldn't use pliers to get it out. Generally you shouldn't need to or try to yank those from any shotgun. We get them out with a heatgun and a rubber gripper, but usually avoid it - an hour of work on an 88 generally exceeds the price of a new one.

Quote from: Chaosvolt on January 02, 2017, 12:22:26 am

Quote from: ApatheticSiegeLion on January 01, 2017, 10:32:10 pm

It's indeed for bird hunting. And pumps are far superior for that because you can have a total of three at that point, as well as a much less expensive gun. Only disadvantage is a single choke, but I get the idea few people really understand how those work anyway.

I would be more concerned with getting a follow-up shot if you fuck up the first one. Most double-barrels are quicker to follow up with than a pump-action. And if you can't get even one clean hit on a bird that's flying away with two shots, you really don't deserve a third. :V

Depending on the design, a skilled user (different from competent) can usually get three shots out of a pump just as fast as you can with an O/U or SxS, and you don't need to shift your grip to do so. Single trigger guns are typically a bit better than doubles for this, but IMO the only real advantage is having access to two different patterns depending on the circumstance.

Not to mention O/Us are stupid pricey for what you get, and generally don't fit both tall people and lefties, of which I am both. Maybe I'm just prejudice.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 03, 2017, 12:18:04 am

So I just went to an indoor gun range and went for ammo before hand; picked up ten 00 buckshot for $10 and twenty-five 8 shoot shells for $8. They told me they only allow slugs and buckshot there so only got to shot my shotgun ten times. Any reason target loads would not be allowed in the range?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on January 03, 2017, 12:28:09 am

Well, I could make a couple guesses - steel might present a ricochet concern to them (which means 90% of hunting loads since the big lead conspiracy thing), and they could be worried they don't have proper ventilation to clear out the lead residue from a bunch of pellets vs. a few big ones (which honestly doesn't make a lot of sense as I suspect the amount of lead aerisolized would be pretty much the same, but many ranges have rules which don't make sense).

Realistically though, these kinds of rules result from a single person doing something dumb (our handgun range here doesn't allow any rifle including .22s, or shotguns, because someone shot up some targets with an SKS once), and aren't always logical even objectively speaking. My other guess would be this - someone shot part of the equipment with a steel load and damaged it, so now no loads with many pellets allowed.

Should go find yourself a nice big field to blast away in. Also, if you got the two barrel combo, don't shoot slugs or buckshot through the long barrel.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 03, 2017, 12:32:52 am

So probably arbitrary rule or some idiot made it so everyone else could not have nice things...seems about right...

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 03, 2017, 02:30:27 pm

Could be a perceived greater risk of winging the ceiling and damaging the pulley for the targets. Or the lights. They're likely overestimating the amount of spread on a shotgun, or they don't want to underestimate how bad a customer's aim might be. :V

Both the indoor ranges I've been to that even allow shotguns at all insist on slugs only, not even buckshot.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 03, 2017, 08:51:59 pm

They allow buckshot and I knocked out one of ther pins they use to secure targets, its one of those you use to hold lots of papers when paperclips can't.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 03, 2017, 09:16:12 pm

Quote from: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 03, 2017, 08:51:59 pm

They allow buckshot and I knocked out one of ther pins they use to secure targets, its one of those you use to hold lots of papers when paperclips can't.

See? This is why youkai don't get birdshot. D:

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 03, 2017, 10:15:44 pm

Quote from: Chaosvolt on January 03, 2017, 09:16:12 pm

Quote from: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 03, 2017, 08:51:59 pm

They allow buckshot and I knocked out one of ther pins they use to secure targets, its one of those you use to hold lots of papers when paperclips can't.

See? This is why youkai don't get target loads. D:

Fify

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on January 04, 2017, 10:08:55 am

This is why ranges should also sell those rounds that just sort of turn into dust when they hit steel and use steel targets, then everyone is happy.

I think they're called fragmentation rounds actually, but I can't quite remember.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 04, 2017, 11:57:06 am

Frangible?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on January 04, 2017, 04:41:56 pm

Frangible. But then the cost of running the range goes up (you need both better ventilation and to buy the ammo in the first place), and you're now forcing people to use ammo that won't behave anything like what they are there to shoot outside of the range, not to mention charging them a fair bit for it. Good way to kill a range right there.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Six on January 04, 2017, 06:02:56 pm

I just meant offer the option, though I can see why it's super expensive

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 04, 2017, 09:32:53 pm

Just opened a target shell and took out all the incredibly small pellets and put slingshot ammo, makeshift slug!

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on January 05, 2017, 08:21:57 pm

(https://laststandonzombieisland.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/1606930_01_howdah_pistol_640.jpg?w=479)
Despite it's appearance, this is NOT a sawn-off shotgun. It is in fact, a "howdah." A large caliber pistol for emergencies.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on January 05, 2017, 09:40:21 pm

You know, like tiger attacks when you're on safari. Bastards can leap right up an elephant.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 05, 2017, 11:58:59 pm

Fill the howdah with lots of powdah, so it shoots lowdah.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 06, 2017, 09:57:15 pm

Took 7 days for my mom to freak out about me owning a shotgun.
"Don't you need a permit?!", "You are going to carry that in the car?!" , "You are going to buy bullets?!"

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 06, 2017, 10:00:28 pm

Pbbbbt. She forget you're the most Texan youkai in the whole forum?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 06, 2017, 10:50:53 pm

Am I really, isn't 70% of the forum texan?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on January 07, 2017, 03:41:14 am

Quote from: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 06, 2017, 10:50:53 pm

Am I really, isn't 70% of the forum texan?

No, but 70% of the forum is furry to some degree. I think.
1.4564335678887% of the forum prefers pineapple on it's pizza.
91% of the forum practices some form of heresy.
107% of the forum has signed over as least 11% of their body to me for use in The Great Project.

Side statistic: Utterly mad is currently home to a grand total of 2 undead entities.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on January 07, 2017, 05:44:42 am

3.141592653% of the forum likes math.
Also it's more like 3 undead.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 07, 2017, 11:33:04 pm

Who are the undead here?

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on January 12, 2017, 12:54:21 pm

While researching how big something would need to be to destroy a planet when thrown at it really fast, I came across this:

http://what-if.xkcd.com/21/

Which basically says you could make a jetpack out of a minigun and insanity.

Also:

http://what-if.xkcd.com/18/

How to stop a train with nothing more than 40,000 of your best friends and some AKs in less than a second.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: A Blitzkrieg of Butts on January 12, 2017, 08:43:53 pm

I like pineapple pizza ;-;

On the other hand, I wish I had the money/parents/age to own a gun ;-;

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 12, 2017, 10:17:48 pm

Spoiler (hover to show)

(https://pics.onsizzle.com/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in-me-3299599.png)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 13, 2017, 12:20:00 pm

Youkai also goes on pizza. :V

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 13, 2017, 01:08:39 pm

Doubltepost because fuck it, pic related:

(http://i.imgur.com/RcusgnB.png)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on January 13, 2017, 01:13:34 pm

This is my thread and I will not allow the pineapple heresy. Yes, you *can* put pineapple on pizza, but you can also put things like motoroil, baby meat, and flaming roadkill on there as well. It still doesn't mean you should or that it belongs there.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 13, 2017, 02:44:31 pm

Quote from: ApatheticSiegeLion on January 13, 2017, 01:13:34 pm

baby meat

Mrnocamera is not a pizza topping. ;w;

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on January 13, 2017, 04:39:17 pm

Quote from: Chaosvolt on January 13, 2017, 02:44:31 pm

Quote from: ApatheticSiegeLion on January 13, 2017, 01:13:34 pm

baby meat

Mrnocamera is not a pizza topping. ;w;

Not even the youngest person on the forum, asshole.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on January 13, 2017, 05:15:06 pm

Or the smallest, IIRC.

Also, ketchup on kraft dinner is fine because unlike pineapple on pizza, it can be applied to a small portion rather than just fucking everyone's food up.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 13, 2017, 05:19:28 pm

Fiiine, I'll stop teasing you. ;w;

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: guest48 on January 13, 2017, 06:13:54 pm

Back to the topic(?), look at this shitty thing.
LOOK.

Spoiler: pretty sure this is WW2's version of the Kolibri (hover to show)

(http://i.imgur.com/DkH5wkT.jpg)

(side note i think there's actually an achievement in Red Orchestra 2 for killing someone with a Nambu

There's also this SMG that's built like a rifle.

Spoiler (hover to show)

(http://i.imgur.com/B1JVWZ6.jpg)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 13, 2017, 06:53:58 pm

That SMG is unreasonably sexy.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: saltmummy626 on January 13, 2017, 07:18:36 pm

I found a real mans gun.

Spoiler (hover to show)

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/news_feeds/icons/original/000/023/824/c67.jpg)

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 13, 2017, 07:39:52 pm

The better to fight dirty windows from long range.

And badcamera, I thought that rifle-shaped SMG was kinda cute. D:

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 13, 2017, 08:14:10 pm

Quote from: Chaosvolt on January 13, 2017, 07:39:52 pm

The better to fight dirty windows from long range.

And badcamera, I thought that rifle-shaped SMG was kinda cute. D:

I don't think the cat would appreciate that, but since he is 1/2 responsible for my lurkifer title, give 'im hell!

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: A Blitzkrieg of Butts on January 13, 2017, 08:19:07 pm

God, Litppunk, why. (RP on CDDA Forum. Slightly gun related. May get a chuckle of two.)

Quote from: Litppunk on January 13, 2017, 02:56:02 pm

Mosin looked around as Jared switched him between shoulders and caught a look at  Lee. Oh... that body. A SMLE Oh, he'd always had a thing for Short Magazine Lee Einfields. And was she ever. No need for a big clip if you've got the accuracy he'd always thought. Lee Enfield - 15A...L16h7 if he remembered correctly, he just thought of her as Leeisa though. She was a well oiled, precision manufactured piece of military hardware. Probably Airborne, Navy Seals, or maybe Delta Force. She was certainly Special Forces purposed.....

Jared pulled Mosin off his shoulder and nestled him between the seat and console, muzzle down (safe direction) and noticed that Kathrine had already tucked Lee.15A away in a similar fashion. He chalked her up another mental point for good to be around. You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat their weapons Mosin noted. Too much oil and care, either a psychopath, or a gun cage-er (collector) let their guns rust and beat them up- ruthless and/or unsympathetic for most life and tools/weapons alike. Well cared, but with a few scratches and well worn spots. An honest and caring person, and a good owner.[/spoiler]

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Well. Now I've written possibly the worlds first gun romance. I hope to keep from devolving it into full on gun porn... er... Errotic bangs. SOoo....with all the bad puns out of the way, I'll try to keep this off topic spoiler as on-tpoic as possible, so you get the most bang for your buck... $(*%&$. Ok, i'm done... I promise... probably.... if I can be trusted not to pun.

Anyways... This is just more random bits of ....Humorous? guns with personalities nonsense.

Yeah... if they were still in Manufacturing and education all the other pistols on the playground cooling racks would probably laugh and point fingers at his infatuation and sing
"♪Mosin    and     Leeisa♪
 ♪on         the     range♪
 ♪ S*H*O*O*T*I*N*G*
First    comes.....


Yeah. Good thing they were mature rifles now.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 13, 2017, 08:30:54 pm

Pbbbbbt.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on January 13, 2017, 08:44:08 pm

Quote from: A Blitzkrieg of Butts on January 13, 2017, 08:19:07 pm

God, Litppunk, why. (RP on CDDA Forum. Slightly gun related. May get a chuckle of two.)

Quote from: Litppunk on January 13, 2017, 02:56:02 pm

Mosin looked around as Jared switched him between shoulders and caught a look at  Lee. Oh... that body. A SMLE Oh, he'd always had a thing for Short Magazine Lee Einfields. And was she ever. No need for a big clip if you've got the accuracy he'd always thought. Lee Enfield - 15A...L16h7 if he remembered correctly, he just thought of her as Leeisa though. She was a well oiled, precision manufactured piece of military hardware. Probably Airborne, Navy Seals, or maybe Delta Force. She was certainly Special Forces purposed.....

Jared pulled Mosin off his shoulder and nestled him between the seat and console, muzzle down (safe direction) and noticed that Kathrine had already tucked Lee.15A away in a similar fashion. He chalked her up another mental point for good to be around. You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat their weapons Mosin noted. Too much oil and care, either a psychopath, or a gun cage-er (collector) let their guns rust and beat them up- ruthless and/or unsympathetic for most life and tools/weapons alike. Well cared, but with a few scratches and well worn spots. An honest and caring person, and a good owner.[/spoiler]

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-

Well. Now I've written possibly the worlds first gun romance. I hope to keep from devolving it into full on gun porn... er... Errotic bangs. SOoo....with all the bad puns out of the way, I'll try to keep this off topic spoiler as on-tpoic as possible, so you get the most bang for your buck... $(*%&$. Ok, i'm done... I promise... probably.... if I can be trusted not to pun.

Anyways... This is just more random bits of ....Humorous? guns with personalities nonsense.

Yeah... if they were still in Manufacturing and education all the other pistols on the playground cooling racks would probably laugh and point fingers at his infatuation and sing
"♪Mosin    and     Leeisa♪
 ♪on         the     range♪
 ♪ S*H*O*O*T*I*N*G*
First    comes.....


Yeah. Good thing they were mature rifles now.

That pretty much sums up just about every conversation he and I had on the forums. My Steam chat log is more zombie oriented though, so it could be coincidental.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Noctifer-De-Mortem on January 13, 2017, 09:23:19 pm

So that thread lead to that how?!

Title: Re: Guns and shit (Apa's random crap thread)
Post by: Chaosvolt on January 13, 2017, 09:50:49 pm

Gun porn, that's how.

Title: Re: Guns and shit (my great lord and savior, my great lord and savior, my great lord and savior, my
Post by: ApatheticExcuse on March 27, 2017, 01:30:33 am

Spoiler (hover to show)

(http://i.imgur.com/dK39BXH.jpg)
resizing is for pussies

Huh. I didn't know the word filter applied to post subjects.