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From Below: A suggestion game
« on: November 16, 2016, 02:14:16 pm »
In the year 2020 the day that everyone thought impossible had finally come to pass. ICBMs were launched on a global scale and planet wide destruction rained down on population center's across the globe. Luckily for you though, you will be able to rest easy. You, along with 1,256 people, were preselected for entry to a state of the art bunker that would help facilitate humanities recovery.

While we wait for the bunker residents to awaken from their cryogenic stasis, let's go over some of the more important details:

Where is the bunker located? This could be any from Easter Island to the middle of a jungle.
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Re: From Below: A suggestion game
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2016, 02:36:32 pm »
So, I talked with Lork a little bit and asked him a couple questions, as I'm not familiar with suggestion games. You can see those here, if you want probably a bunch more information than you'll need:

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Based on this information, here's my overthought and over-detailed suggestion.

I suggest we start in French Polynesia, specifically on the Marquesas or Society Islands, which are high enough to avoid tsunamis. If possible, the bunker should be chopped into one of the mountains. My rational is this - French Polynesia sits in a vortex of currents and trade winds that originate in Antartica. Unless someone nukes Antartica, fallout will inheriently blow and wash away from us and should never touch the island. Similarly, any kind of pollution we produce will be carried elsewhere.

The winds and currents also make it pretty hard to reach unless you have a powered boat of some kind, a large plane, or depart from south america.

Besides this, French Polynesia is self-sufficient in terms of food production, provided you don't mind eating mostly fruits and stuff. While there's no minerals or anything beneath it, IMO, we won't need them.

Finally, the population is pretty low (presumably with a good chunk of whatever specific island we'd be on population consisting of people who didn't make it out of the bunker), so we won't have to worry about other people. Even if everyone else survives, 2011 estimates say there's only about 600 guns in the hands of civilians on the islands, and another 1400 in the hands of military and police, as well as some pretty tight restrictions on how much ammo can be owned at one time. Given that the bunker was supposed to hold over 1000 people, we probably are more well armed than anyone near by, even if most of that's stuck in the bunker for now.

I'd suggest our survivors look like this, expressed as a percentage:

45 scientests - 10 general, 10 botanists, 10 computer specialists, 5 nuclear specialists, 5 medical specialists, 5 agricultural specialists
30 military - all geared and equipped towards operating in this specific environment, and to deal with local fauna and excel in marine operations.
24 workers - 10 general engineers, 14 skilled labourers (welders and stuff).
1 historian - specializing in tribal culture, specifically local culture and religion. He has really bad stomach problems.

If no one else is into that build, I'll throw my vote in with any build involving very few other people, and a large, sustainable body of water, ideally within a kilometer or so of the bunker.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2016, 11:07:03 pm by ApatheticExcuse »
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Re: From Below: A suggestion game
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2016, 11:06:38 pm »
I'll go ahead and go with Apa's build.

I personally prefer burning out in a huge stand against mutants and desperate people in a lesser-ish populated American state or small European country, but this idea sure does make it seem like we'll actually survive.
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Re: From Below: A suggestion game
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2016, 08:48:52 pm »
I Will make my own build!

I would suggest we start off the cost of Deluth, MN (Favorite place in all of MN) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duluth,_Minnesota
It is a major port on lake superior. That also means lost of contraband coming in AKA drugs, stolen goods, weapons, people even (Like, its a serious problem.) No other large cities for miles. The bunker would be on the lake bed only a few miles off the shore. There is an escape submarine if there is a critical failure. Could house 2000, About 150 made it out. Failure was a hull breach, so no returning. Radiation is not very much because it's in the middle of nowhere.

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30 Marines armed with L129A1s with 20 mags each.
10 Marine biologists
10 Crewmen (For the sub)
30 Workers (Repair, Cleaning, ect)
20 Naval Officers armed with FN F2000s with 10 mags each
50 Civilians
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Re: From Below: A suggestion game
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2016, 11:02:10 pm »
We need more people to come in and vote! I'll go with the majority.

Anyway, I'm ok with that too (though I'd maybe suggest some further specialization for the survivors), but it's worth noting getting back in to an underwater bunker will be pretty much impossible even without a hull breach, which removes our more or less 100% chance of surviving forever and getting use of some particularly handy gear. Not that that the latter might be all that important with a major city nearby, and I'm pretty sure a submarine capable of housing 2000 people (or even one capable of holding 150) would actually be safer for the first 5 years or so.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2016, 11:21:52 pm by ApatheticExcuse »
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Re: From Below: A suggestion game
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2016, 09:35:31 am »
We need more people to come in and vote! I'll go with the majority.

Anyway, I'm ok with that too (though I'd maybe suggest some further specialization for the survivors), but it's worth noting getting back in to an underwater bunker will be pretty much impossible even without a hull breach, which removes our more or less 100% chance of surviving forever and getting use of some particularly handy gear. Not that that the latter might be all that important with a major city nearby, and I'm pretty sure a submarine capable of housing 2000 people (or even one capable of holding 150) would actually be safer for the first 5 years or so.
Well one thing, the sub was not made for habitat. It doesn't have water purifiers and other gizmos like that. It's sole purpose is to get people onto shore. Also, here is a map if the Tsar Bomb, a 50 Mt bomb, detonating in St. Paul. http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?&kt=50000&lat=44.9537029&lng=-93.0899578&airburst=0&hob_ft=0&casualties=1&fallout=1&ff=3&fatalities=911402&injuries=900424&psi_1=2891047&zm=7
Deluth is only getting one rad per hour, so it is very much manageable. Unless they use some sort of craze superbomb or something.
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Re: From Below: A suggestion game
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2016, 02:37:04 pm »
Subs don't need to be made for habitat to be used as such. And even a big diving bell would be handy - two meters of water will make it safe to stand directly next to a fuel rod, let alone something like a little bit of surface fallout.

That's an incredibly cool map.

I think the issue with that assumption is that between it's use as a transportation hub, the fact that most of the US arsenal is concentrated in the midwest, and all the little airforce bases (including one in Duluth itself), and that the majority of Canada's population lives on the other side, the great lakes would get more than one bomb. Like, many, many more, but I can tell you from the map (which claims to model fallout weirdly anyway), dropping two or three on the region makes things look much messier. Dropping one on every population center makes the whole place glow. Current high estimates for US casualties in the event of a war using today's stockpiles are something like 90%.

Turns out FEMA has some numbers on this:

http://www.ki4u.com/nuclearsurvival/states/mn.htm

http://www.ki4u.com/nuclearsurvival/states/mn.htm#continent

Anyway, I'm not against it, like I said. I have a pretty good idea how to never die on the island, but it doesn't mean this could be less fun, even if it's a radioactive shit hole. It's just hard mode to easy mode.

Lork, you're the grand apocalypse wizard. You should lay out what Duluth would look like in the game. I didn't think to ask a bunch of questions about that region.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2016, 02:49:37 pm by ApatheticExcuse »
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