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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #210 on: November 30, 2015, 08:45:05 am »
So Minecraft comes along and basically says, "Screw that open or closed beta shit you normally get in for, for free. Just pay this low price and you get the full game when it's released." Problem was... it was a really good game developed by a team dedicated to what they love to do make games.
Just going to pop by and correct you on that. Notch developed Minecraft by himself, it wasn't until much much later that he hired a team to keep pumping out updates. Notch having done most of the work in developing Minecraft before even hiring a team yet. Notch then Jeb up to leading the continued development on Minecraft as he turned his attention to work on his other game, Scrolls.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #211 on: November 30, 2015, 04:21:08 pm »
"Indie Dev" is a pretty generous title for most early access developers.

An example I can think of is starforge. Anybody remember starforge? It was originally marketed as a minecraft tower defense game, and turned into a space minecraft type game. Development was going fine until they suddenly found themselves drowning in money. What did they do with that money? They burned through it before you could say "NO STARFORGE WAIT!!" They spent ALL of their budget almost instantly by hiring a bunch of professional game devs, IMMEDIATELY had to let them go along with half of their original team, and released starforge as it is now, a broken horrible mess.

and then they made reign of kings.
I unfortunately own Starforge. It is bad. Like, Holy shit bad.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #212 on: November 30, 2015, 06:20:05 pm »
starforge had such promise too...

Maybe I'm just a dick and this sounds petty as hell, but Markus Persson pisses me off and it wasn't until he started talking like minecraft had ruined his life that I started to feel this way. This was around the time life was shitty, and the thought that the man who made one hell of a successful game was bitching and moaning about being made into a "symbol" pissed me right the fuck off. If it wasn't about the money, then fucking donate it. Don't sell off your company and buy a mansion, give the money the fuck away! Who the fuck cares what phil fish thinks? Phil fish is a whiny cunt.

my feeling at the time was, in a nutshell; "You are unhappy because you are successful? My mother is in the hospital with cancer you fuck."

In other news, the next Don't Starve expansion goes into early access tomorrow.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #213 on: November 30, 2015, 06:37:53 pm »
I think it was more the fact that his wife divorced him (neutral terms my ass) and all he has is his kingdom of dirt, he doesn't like his fanbase as much as people would think mostly due to the fact several of his projects died because it wasn't Minecraft. And he did donate a fuck ton of his earnings early on, now he probably sits in a giant house alone possibly getting hefty royalty checks until Minecraft finally dries up. But by that time he'll be set for life.


But look now that he stopped developing Minecraft no one cares or gives two shits about him anymore,  and I don't think he even shows up to his cons anymore... after a quick google search it seems he's enjoying his billions of dollars. Riiiiight.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #214 on: November 30, 2015, 10:52:21 pm »
I noticed that the devs for RUST are either adding or planning to add some interesting things, ill list 'm out the ones that caught my eye the most.

A new semi auto rifle that seems to be modeled after the m1 carbine.
Browsable ratchets and other tools.
Scientist NPCs.
An actual m249 that you can only get out of those apache choppers.
Apache choppers.
Ak remodel.
Turrets.
Ducks
Butts
Steam stuff
Water
Exploit fixes
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #215 on: December 01, 2015, 01:56:32 am »
My only problem with Rust is balancing. I was getting my ass handed to me by dudes with guns non-stop, like I'd waste 4 hours getting a base built only for it to be torn down in 2 seconds by some dude with an AK.

So I respawn and found a base, THE DOOR WAS WIDE OPEN AND THE GUYS WERE ON THE ROOF SNIPING! So I loot the containers, get as many guns as I can carry and make it my goal to tear their base down like they did mone and so many others. I managed to kill all of them with mo armor and just an AK, they were fully armored, the AK is too OP. Really bullshit unfair amounts of OP, and nothing will change that fact until they play with the values. The only reason I lost is because I needed to reload and I got overwhelmed, they kept coming nonstop, but the good news is this allowed the rival gang ended up taking the base so... meh.

No one runs and guns in Rust everyone always camps, so make the AK more inaccurate or make it have a lower firerrate, or make it need to have certain parts that you can only get in dungeons.

But then again that whole divide from being predator and prey would be lost, maybe if they just gave nakeds more tools to work with, maybe something that could penetrate armor. Maybe a new arrow type or something.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #216 on: December 01, 2015, 05:16:15 pm »
I think they are doing something about the AK? They have a deeper modification system they are working on, and the first weapon to be effected will be the AK. By "deeper" I mean swapping out more than just silencers and laser sights.

You are right though, it's mostly about camping the loot spawns, which is sad, but take a look at some of the cool shit out there. Some people build whole towns. Mostly it depends on what you find fun, and unfortunately a lot of people just like call of duty. The cool thing about rust though is that it is very obvious that it IS being worked on. You get that devlog every friday and get to see whats going on. I remember one of the turret announcement devlogs being greeted with "RAIDING IS DEAD! RUST IS DEAD! WHY YOU DO THIS GARRY!? WHYYYYYYY!" all becuase people could build turrets to help defend their bases, as if you cant shoot the turrets to break them AND as if making them was easy. Nothing worse than some bitch that wants the game easy for themselves but not for everyone else. They camp because they climbed that slippery slope of getting materials and raiding other players and they don't want to do anything that might be creative or fun. their sole interaction with other players, in their minds, is limited to "shoot on sight." It's all they know. On the subject of nub tool, they are making more stuff for nubs all the time and getting guns to be harder to make (high quality metal.) The only problem I have with rust is that it takes half an hour to 45 minutes to launch the game and join a server.

I have the new don't starve expansion. WE WILL SEE.
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and I have seen. It's pretty good, puts a new spin on the don't starve equation with the water based stuff. food is pretty easy to get but the island foods dont recover as much hunger. Klei is gonna integrate it with the regular don't starve stuff at some point, but for now you have to decide if you want to play with RoG or shipwrecked. I think the crabs respawn faster than the rabbits maybe? then again, I havn't played single player don't starve in awhile, so maybe my scale is based off DST.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #217 on: December 01, 2015, 11:56:28 pm »
Apparently I didn't look hard enough, I totally forgot about those loot stashes you can place down to hide your shit. Along with using the sleeping bag as a place to "stake your claim".

And I would do that, but a major wipe is coming this Thursday so I'm waiting until then. BPs are also getting wiped, so yeah no AK bullshit right now.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #218 on: December 02, 2015, 02:07:00 am »
I think it was more the fact that his wife divorced him (neutral terms my ass)
How did I miss this? (both in this conversation and in games news I mean)
So the woman he had basically JUST married divorced him? That's quiet funny, and just screams "I married you for a piece of that phat minecraft money, and now that we are wed I will divorce you and take a chunk of it, laughing all the way to the bank as I do so."

What if he saw it coming and sold minecraft to microsoft to keep her from getting any part of it?
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #219 on: December 02, 2015, 06:14:51 pm »
I think it was more the fact that his wife divorced him (neutral terms my ass)
How did I miss this? (both in this conversation and in games news I mean)
So the woman he had basically JUST married divorced him? That's quiet funny, and just screams "I married you for a piece of that phat minecraft money, and now that we are wed I will divorce you and take a chunk of it, laughing all the way to the bank as I do so."

What if he saw it coming and sold minecraft to microsoft to keep her from getting any part of it?
Probably more because Microsoft offered a metric fuckton of money for it. I mean at the time Microsoft was buying he was starting to drift away from Minecraft, with his team working on it, as he went to do his other projects. I mean holy hell, if I had made a game that got successful and was offered millions of dollars for it, I would accept it too. Fuck that mentality of him just being a sell out, that is a lot of money!

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #220 on: December 03, 2015, 05:34:23 am »
Notch still felt like a dick after seeing what they did to it. (Ruin modding, outlaw pirating minecraft.)
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #221 on: December 03, 2015, 11:40:10 pm »
Notch still felt like a dick after seeing what they did to it. (Ruin modding, outlaw pirating minecraft.)
That makes me feel a bit better about the guy actually. Shows he actually cared a bit.
Now that you mention it, It's been quiet a while since I got to update my personal modpack. 1.8 came along with the new "resource pack" shit and even today, hardly any of the mods I use have been updated. Apparently, modding is incredibly difficult now. Modders wanted an easier to use API, not an impossible to use one.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #222 on: December 03, 2015, 11:52:38 pm »
I watched the entire TGAs with the NeverBeGameOver community in hopes of seeing Kojima explain everything with Chapter 3, the missing content. But Konami wouldn't let him.

I haven't cried in a while, but this is beyond unfair, not for me or the community. But for Kojima, dude works his ass off and he gets shafted so hard he doesn't even get to personally receive his awards, nothing, nadda, they just used us and I should've expected it. I thought Kojima would pull through, he couldn't and now he's gone silent once more.

Fuck Konami.

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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #223 on: December 04, 2015, 12:03:05 am »
Yeah that scrubbing was fucked up. At least they didn't send him to the pachinko mines.

I was booting up minecraft and remembered my first times with it. I started playing minecraft after pirating it, and I pirated it until the halloween update. After that update, I bought it.
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Re: Game Discussion
« Reply #224 on: December 05, 2015, 06:23:26 pm »
I think I bought mine around the Halloween update. Before that I would play on the classic or whatever it was called games. Does anyone remember that? It was like Alpha minecraft and pre-creative mode but creative mode. I remember there was the water and lava that would just keep spreading to the blocks to the side and under, flooding everywhere. There was even places that used that as a neat little game mechanic, where you built shelters to survive lava flooding.

 

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